Tom the roofer

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I read the directions for the 2 step and I understand how it works except for the relay the directions talk about. Is this relay internal in the black box? Do I need to buy a relay? It says this about the relay:

In both configurations the relay will close whenever the 2 step is armed. This will connect the terminals 87 and 30. When the 2 step is not armed 87A and 30 are being connected. Use 87 and 30 for an "armed indicater" and use 87A and 30 for a nitrous "de-activate switch". I am really confused.

I am not using nitrous

Here is what I understand. Connect the yellow wire to "positive" connect the grey wire to a continuous ground. Connect the white wire to a momentary switch then to ground. This is what activates the 2 step.

TRANS BRAKE: Only 2 wires to mess with. The way the wiring is set up now the black wire is connected to ground. The white wire I simply connect to a momentary switch and then to "positive connection". Can I do this *** backwards and connect the "positive connection" direct and use the momentary switch in the ground wire to complete the circuit?

I ask this because:

Could I use the same momentary switch for both the 2 step and the trans brake ground wires to complete both circuits? If I can, I understand how I can hook this thing up.

What the heck is the relay??????

Thanks for any help because I want to hook this thing up tomorrow.

TIA Tom

PS, I'm NO ELECTRICIAN <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

<small>[ February 16, 2003, 07:08 PM: Message edited by: Tom the roofer ]</small>

GeorgeC

Tom, you don't have to mess with the yellow wire or relay. The gray and black wires just have to be grounded to activate the 2-step. That's it.

The yellow wire is an output that you can use to disable a N2O system while the 2-step is actively working...

Call me if you need to...

DERTY

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by GeorgeC:
<strong>The yellow wire is an output that you can use to disable a N2O system while the 2-step is actively working...
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or you can use it for an arming light so that you know it truly is working. You might want it more for a stick where it's a little more comfortable knowing it's armed and ready to go.

Tom the roofer

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by derty:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by GeorgeC:
<strong>The yellow wire is an output that you can use to disable a N2O system while the 2-step is actively working...
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or you can use it for an arming light so that you know it truly is working. You might want it more for a stick where it's a little more comfortable knowing it's armed and ready to go. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks George and Derty.

Derty, Would I hook this yellow wire to an arming switch and light and then to ground? Trust me, I'm no electritian.

George, I'll call you tonight. I still need to know about activating both the trans brake and 2 step with the same switch.

Thanks
Tom

<small>[ February 17, 2003, 07:30 AM: Message edited by: Tom the roofer ]</small>

Tom the roofer

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Thanks for taking the time to straighten me out George. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> good talking to you.

Thanks again
Tom.

y2khawk

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Yep, Steve's got it right

The yellow wire becomes ground when the 2-step is actually "on" (ie limiting RPM)

You connect like this....

12V -> (relay or light) -> yellow wire

the relay/indicator input is only rated to 0.5A, so a relay is needed if you're gonna run something that pulls alot of current.

One of those 12V ready LED's from radio shack works well.

Tom, you can email/PM me with questions if you have anymore.

GeorgeC

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tom the roofer:
<strong> Thanks for taking the time to straighten me out George. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> good talking to you.

Thanks again
Tom. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not a prob Tom. I don't know what you were were worried so much about. The fax that you sent me almost looked like it was drawn by an engineer! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Tom the roofer

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by GeorgeC:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tom the roofer:
<strong> Thanks for taking the time to straighten me out George. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> good talking to you.

Thanks again
Tom. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not a prob Tom. I don't know what you were were worried so much about. The fax that you sent me almost looked like it was drawn by an engineer! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Trust me George, you helped me understand the whole deal. Thanks man. Besides, the only enginering I know I learnt from BOX CAR WILLIE. I got them box car blues, shuffle on down the line <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> .

Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

<small>[ February 17, 2003, 11:42 PM: Message edited by: Tom the roofer ]</small>

DERTY

I believe you would hook up your switch as normal, probably like how George has explained. Then you can use a light in the switch or stand alone. Hook one end to a 12v source and I believe the yellow will go to ground when activated thus the light will come on. You might want to put a small inline fuse or get your 12v source off a fused circuit somewhere.

That should do it. I'd send Harlan a message and he could give you the definitive config and give you some clues on how he would wire it in to your solenoids.

<small>[ February 17, 2003, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: derty ]</small>