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Old 10-27-2006, 05:36 PM
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Hey guys I currently own a 97 mustang that is giving me problems right now and I am looking into buying either a mustang GT or a Firebird/Trans Am. I started looking at the GTs but was dissapointed at seeing only like 220 Hp to the wheels. So I want to buy a firebird or Trans Am and really like the 98 front rather than the 2002. Is there any differences in performance between the two body styles. I am looking for something under 11K and found plenty in that price range but dont know which one to go for. Can anybody help?
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98 and 02 front ends are the same. 97 was the earlier body style and there is about 50-70 HP difference depending on what year you go with from 93-97, how ever the 98-02 will all have about 350 HP with all models, base models throught WS6/Firehawks, all ratings from the factory were underestimated. What GT is putting 220 to the ground? Most I've seen is 205ish as they state they have 215-250 HP. 11k is PLENTY to get a decent LS1 (98-02). The search feature alone holds all the information you could ever want about these cars, don't be scared, and good luck!!
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98 and 02 front ends are the same. 97 was the earlier body style and there is about 50-70 HP difference depending on what year you go with from 93-97, how ever the 98-02 will all have about 350 HP with all models, base models throught WS6/Firehawks, all ratings from the factory were underestimated. What GT is putting 220 to the ground? Most I've seen is 205ish as they state they have 215-250 HP. 11k is PLENTY to get a decent LS1 (98-02). The search feature alone holds all the information you could ever want about these cars, don't be scared, and good luck!!
Oh nevermind I was talking about the Trans Am front end like yours. Is there any difference in HP between the 98-02 Trans Am and the Firebird?
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Trans Ams and Firebird Formulas have the same engine and the same HP/TQ rating. Its the same exact car, just different front/rear bumpers, wing and sideskirts.... only a visual difference. Then theres the base Firebird V6.... I would stick with the V8 models though (Formula & Trans Am).

Remember only 98-02 models had an LS1, 93-97 had LT1 engines, so make sure its a 98+ car if your looking for an LS1. In 01-02, LS1s made 15HP more than 98-00 LS1s because of a different intake manifold.

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Thanks for all of the info so my best bet would be buying a 01-02 LS1 then? Is there any drawbacks of those years, anything that the 98-00 had better? Sorry to be such a noob but I made the mistake of buying a V6 mustang as my first car and didnt know they came with only like 120 HP to the wheels beause I didnt do my homeork. I want to own a car now that will not get its *** handed by a civic with a CAI.
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Originally Posted by maxstang
Thanks for all of the info so my best bet would be buying a 01-02 LS1 then? Is there any drawbacks of those years, anything that the 98-00 had better? Sorry to be such a noob but I made the mistake of buying a V6 mustang as my first car and didnt know they came with only like 120 HP to the wheels beause I didnt do my homeork. I want to own a car now that will not get its *** handed by a civic with a CAI.
If I were you I'd buy a 98-00 car, because you can always just buy an LS6 intake manifold for about $300 (which you don't even need, it only adds 15 HP) and then have the same performance as a 01-02. Then use all the money you saved buying an older car, and put all of that into more performance mods.
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Well the 01&02s do have some upgrades, the LS6 clutch, and manifold, and upgraded hydraulics.
It depends on what deals you can find in your area, a 98-00 will do fine, as will an 01-02, it all depends on what you can find in your area that's within your budget
And as for having to worry about a honda with a CAI handing you your ***, you definately won't need to care about that, even if the car is left bone stock (you'll be the one handing asses out)
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Sweet. Thanks for all the info guys I think all of my questions are pretty much answered. Ill post if I have anymore that search cant answer.
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yep u made a good choice maxstang. Firebirds will murder Fordinary Rustangs if they are stock. especially if they have V8 LS1 5.7
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Good choice. You will like Firebirds or T/As must better than Mustangs. (I had a V8 Mustang. POS compared to my Formula Firebird!!!!!!!!!!! No comparison at all. )
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Pfff my TPI 350 easily handled Mustangs lol Well save the Cobra or Saleen, but that's quite a bit different lol I can guarantee you that even a LT1 Firebird will make you VERY happy! If you get one of those 'Birds, you would save even MORE and make a crazy stroker motor Imagine the look on your OWN face lol Either way you go you'll be a happy camper
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Originally Posted by maxstang
Is there any difference in HP between the 98-02 Trans Am and the Firebird?
watch your terminology...

98-02 Firebird: 3.8 V6
98-02 Trans Am or Formula: 5.7 V8
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I bought a 1998 Pontiac Formula (A4) that was in excellent condition for 8999.00 plus they gave me 1500.00 extra from my Jetta. The car has only 54k and runs like a dream and gets good gas mileage (24 mpg). If you don't owe any money on the mustang you should be able to get a great deal with the trade in. I have owned numerous sport cars (280z, two Formula's 1991, 1997 lt1ws6) and a Jetta with a bigger turbo and beleive me nothing comes close.
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If you plan on doing any decent mods, just get any year (although the 01-02 heads are slightly better along with intake manifold). Reason being, is that once you put headers on, the stock "better" manifolds on the 00-02 cars becomes a moot point, and here's a quandry... if you get a pre 01-02 and put an intake manifold on, the stock cam on the pre 01 cars is SLIGHTLY larger, so there you go. I got an '00 because it was exactly the formula I was looking for, regardless of year. As said, 11k could get you plenty of car. Good luck.

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The 01-02 models have better flowing exhaust manifolds, pup cats which flow better, LS6 intake, oil pump, and fuel injectors, slightly better head casting, no egr, but according to GM make only 5 more HP. The 98-00 cars have a bigger cam as stated above so it all breaks down to if you want to keep it stock or not!



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