Camaro vs Mustang (but not in a race)
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Camaro vs Mustang (but not in a race)
Not trying to start a fight here because I like both cars, but why does it seem like Mustangs hold their value so much better than Camaros?
For example a decent 2000 SS (not just a Z28, but the top of the line) might sell for 12K, a Mustang GT of the same year will sell for around 14K. The Camaro started at a higher MSRP, comes w/ a 6-speed, bigger engine. Why do you think they cost less? IDK I just thought about it and it confused me..
For example a decent 2000 SS (not just a Z28, but the top of the line) might sell for 12K, a Mustang GT of the same year will sell for around 14K. The Camaro started at a higher MSRP, comes w/ a 6-speed, bigger engine. Why do you think they cost less? IDK I just thought about it and it confused me..
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Where you getting your info from?
Just searching autotrader I found a:
2000 Camaro Z28, 40k miles, $11,588
2000 Camaro Z28, 55k miles, $14,995
2002 Camaro Z28, 44k miles, $15,000
2000 Mustang GT, 44k miles, $11,950
2002 Mustang GT, 41k miles, $14,995
this was just copy paste. But I don't see the trend you see. Obviously alot of things effect the price of the car, but judging from that, even if you ignore the highly priced 00 Z28, they are pretty much on par.
Just searching autotrader I found a:
2000 Camaro Z28, 40k miles, $11,588
2000 Camaro Z28, 55k miles, $14,995
2002 Camaro Z28, 44k miles, $15,000
2000 Mustang GT, 44k miles, $11,950
2002 Mustang GT, 41k miles, $14,995
this was just copy paste. But I don't see the trend you see. Obviously alot of things effect the price of the car, but judging from that, even if you ignore the highly priced 00 Z28, they are pretty much on par.
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Well dealers will still mark their prices up accordingly. So a Camaro will be marked up the same as a Mustang. So the prices should both seem inflated from dealers, equally.
Anywho, I will be keeping a watchful eye on this thread since most Mustang vs Camaro threads don't go very far before getting out of control.
Anywho, I will be keeping a watchful eye on this thread since most Mustang vs Camaro threads don't go very far before getting out of control.
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Sure, yeah I didn't make this to start a fight. Actually I have someone coming in a week to buy my Mustang, so I'm not just trolling thinking Mustangs rule.
What I was trying to get at is either why aren't Fbods more expensive or Mustangs cheaper? I mean I'm totally cool with how it is now because I would like to own a Z28 in the future. It just seems like the Fbody has more +'s than similar year stangs. idk, just a thought.
What I was trying to get at is either why aren't Fbods more expensive or Mustangs cheaper? I mean I'm totally cool with how it is now because I would like to own a Z28 in the future. It just seems like the Fbody has more +'s than similar year stangs. idk, just a thought.
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Hm, I always thought Mustangs had a lower resale value than F-bodies. That's the trend I've noticed in my area. LS1 cars hold their value pretty well compared to most sports cars, probably because they aren't made anymore. I'm just guessing though.
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I agree, i have both a SS and a mustang and i have always found F-bodies to be higher than equivient mustangs. When people start modding mustangs to get the same amount of power you get out of a bolt on f body is when you will see the price jump. The not-so-inteligent will mod the hell out of a mustang to see 350rwhp and ask for the blue book price plus every penny they have put into it. Here is where you will see mustangs higher...
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I own both a '98 Formula and a '98 Mustang GT. I paid $6500 for the Formula with 128K on it and $7200 for the Mustang with 109K on it. Both are in the exact same shape. I don't see either one being more valuable than the other except for when it comes to mods. Then the F-body has a huge advantage. I've been collecting parts for the Mustang and if I did all the equivalent parts on the Firebird, I'd see a much higher gain. I've bought a 75MM TB, plenum, P.I. intake, cold air intake, timing adjuster, and an off road H-pipe. With all of those parts and expense, I will be lucky to see 30 HP. Lucky for me, I've been shopping eBay for deals and I don't have a lot into parts, but I have seen the expense some people go to to make their Mustangs faster and to me, it's not worth it. F-bodies FTW!
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"Prices vary depending on location as well."
i think this hits it right on. i'd imagen there's far to many things to consider before you could say a mustang goes for more then the same yr F-body. time of year and location would be very important. also, just because you see people asking for X amount of dollars for something on a site like this doesnt mean its going to sell for that. same for auto trader and the like.
so basicly, unless you are going to gather 1000's of examples from all over the country of actual selling prices (not what people are asking, or not prices of cars that dont sell), i dont think you can say much with certainty about what how these cars prices compare.
taking just a few samples from a few sites like this or from auto trader certainly wont answer the question. i'd imagine though that if you did do some sort of complete study on the selling prices of f-bodys vs. mustangs you'd probably see a big range that the same yr cars will sell for. (ie, you'll see a few 2000 SS that sell for really low and a few that sell for really high, and some in between, just like you'll see the same for a 2000 GT) this range will make any direct comparison impossible, and will make the averages meaningless. i'd guess that if you did average it all together and compare it, the prices of same yr cars would be very close. i dont think you'd see any real pattern of a stang or f-body selling higher or lower then the other. but maybe, who knows. my point is i doubt you can make such a sweeping statement at all since there are SOOOO many factors involved in what a car sells for.
i think this hits it right on. i'd imagen there's far to many things to consider before you could say a mustang goes for more then the same yr F-body. time of year and location would be very important. also, just because you see people asking for X amount of dollars for something on a site like this doesnt mean its going to sell for that. same for auto trader and the like.
so basicly, unless you are going to gather 1000's of examples from all over the country of actual selling prices (not what people are asking, or not prices of cars that dont sell), i dont think you can say much with certainty about what how these cars prices compare.
taking just a few samples from a few sites like this or from auto trader certainly wont answer the question. i'd imagine though that if you did do some sort of complete study on the selling prices of f-bodys vs. mustangs you'd probably see a big range that the same yr cars will sell for. (ie, you'll see a few 2000 SS that sell for really low and a few that sell for really high, and some in between, just like you'll see the same for a 2000 GT) this range will make any direct comparison impossible, and will make the averages meaningless. i'd guess that if you did average it all together and compare it, the prices of same yr cars would be very close. i dont think you'd see any real pattern of a stang or f-body selling higher or lower then the other. but maybe, who knows. my point is i doubt you can make such a sweeping statement at all since there are SOOOO many factors involved in what a car sells for.
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well, i would have to agree with Zfan88 on tthis one completely, their are way to many variables to make an assumption like that without some SERIOUSE research first. But in my persenal experiance ive noticed here in my area right now it seems f-bodys are a few thousand more than mustangs of the equivalent. This also seems to be in part, atleast in my area, because for every 10 dealerships i pass, thier are atleast 2 mustangs in each lot while in those same 10 dealerships i would be hard-pressed to find atleast 1 V8 powered f-bod.
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Yea, there are way too many variables, and the prices are so close to begin with that they always intertwine. Impossible to really make that judgement.
If you want to say a Ferrari costs more than an equivalent year SS, fine. It's obvious. But you just can't say which goes for more across the country or even in your area with Mustang vs. Camaro because there's no way to tell.
Now the only way to settle this battle is NADA...same zip code, same options, same year. It's in no way the ultimate answer, but it's the best you will get.
2000 SS....75000 miles.....$13475 avg. retail
2000 Z28...75000 miles.....$12075 avg. retail
2000 GT....75000 miles.....$11100 avg. retail
Take that simply for what it is.
If you want to say a Ferrari costs more than an equivalent year SS, fine. It's obvious. But you just can't say which goes for more across the country or even in your area with Mustang vs. Camaro because there's no way to tell.
Now the only way to settle this battle is NADA...same zip code, same options, same year. It's in no way the ultimate answer, but it's the best you will get.
2000 SS....75000 miles.....$13475 avg. retail
2000 Z28...75000 miles.....$12075 avg. retail
2000 GT....75000 miles.....$11100 avg. retail
Take that simply for what it is.
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Originally Posted by Mac93
Shouldn't that bring the price down for the mustang? More choices for potential buyers?
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Around here when I just browse the for sale ads, autotrader and autoshopper Trans Am's and Camaros are more than Mustangs of the same year. The only Mustangs that are higher are the 04-06 GT's with low mileage, Mach 1's and 03-04 Cobra's.
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Originally Posted by gyrene2003
No, in-fact quite the opposite, if their is a demand the dealerships will mark up the product, example, new Z06 went for way past its MSRP cause of so many dealer mark-ups cause they were in such demand. Most people who no nil abou cars see a mustang and a camaro and automatically think the mustang is the better of the two mainly in part to advertisment.