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02-13-2007, 02:44 PM
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p1640 Anyone have an Alldata.com membership? I just lost mine today (never got to use it either).
I'm looking for DTC code p1640 on a 3800 Buick (like a 1995 model)
p1640 doesnt exist!! no such thing
We've put in a new ECM and it says the same thing
Thanks
I'm looking for DTC code p1640 on a 3800 Buick (like a 1995 model)
p1640 doesnt exist!! no such thing
We've put in a new ECM and it says the same thing
Thanks
02-13-2007, 04:13 PM
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Can't find it in my 01 helms, get the same description when plugging it into obdii.com though. The "6" according to them refers to a "computer output circuit." Sorry no help...TTT
02-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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hm... the code says input, but you're telling me its output...?
Thanks man!
This is what I was able to find out: ( but I still dont know what my problem is )
DTC P1640 Driver-1-Input High Voltage
Refer to PCM Power and Grounds for wiring view
Circuit Description
The PCM contains chips called Output Driver Modules that provide 7 switchable ground outputs for operating solenoids, relays, telltales, and other devices. Each of these ground outputs has fault lines that feed back to the PCM's microprocessor. ODM #1 can also sense high voltage coming in which might damage the chip. DTC P1640 is used to monitor ODM #1's overvoltage sense line.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
Test Condition
Engine running at least 10 seconds.
Failure Condition
Overvoltage is sensed for 2 seconds.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The PCM will illuminate the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) when the diagnostic runs and fails.
The PCM will record operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. This information will be stored in the Freeze Frame and Failure Records.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
The PCM will turn the MIL OFF after three consecutive drive trips that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
A Last Test Failed (current) DTC will clear when the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
A History DTC will clear after forty consecutive warm-up cycles with no failures of any emission related diagnostic test.
Use a scan tool to clear DTCs.
Interrupting PCM battery voltage may or may not clear DTCs. This practice is not recommended. Refer to Clearing Diagnostic Trouble Codes in PCM Description and Operation.
Diagnostic Aids
Since an overvoltage at ODM #1 should also trigger DTC P0563, the diagnosis for DTC P0563 may be used if vehicle voltage is actually too high.
A loose or faulty connection at generator L terminal may cause DTC P1640 to set intermittently.
Test Description
Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Table.
If ignition voltage and IPC battery voltage are within 1.5 volt of each other, there may be a system voltage problem. If they are not within 1.5 volt of each other, find out why the PCM is different.
Checking if PCM ignition voltage is actually displaying system voltage.
1
Was the Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?
--
yes- Go to Step 2
no -Go to A Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check
2
Start and idle the engine.
Using a scan tool note the Ignition 1 display.
Compare this voltage to the voltage displayed by the vehicle message center.
Are PCM and vehicle voltage readings different by more than the value specified?
---1.5 volts
yes - Go to Step 3
no - Fault not present. Refer to Diagnostic Aids
3
Using DVM J 39200 measure voltage to ground on PCM fuse (installed).
Is voltage measured and the Ignition 1 voltages different by more than the value specified?
---1.5 volts
yes - Go to Step 4
no - Perform Charging System Check
4
Check for high resistance in CKT 439.
Repair high resistance if needed.
Was a repair made to CKT 439?
--
yes - Go to Powertrain Control Module Diagnosis for Verify Repair
no - Go to Step 5
5
Check PCM terminal contact at connector C1 terminal 19 and connector C2 terminal 37.
Repair terminal contact if needed.
Was terminal contact repaired?
--
yes - Go to Powertrain Control Module Diagnosis for Verify Repair
no - Go to Step 6
6
Replace the PCM (Go to PCM Replacement/Programming ).
Is the replacement complete?
--
Go to Powertrain Control Module Diagnosis for Verify Repair
Thanks man!
This is what I was able to find out: ( but I still dont know what my problem is )
DTC P1640 Driver-1-Input High Voltage
Refer to PCM Power and Grounds for wiring view
Circuit Description
The PCM contains chips called Output Driver Modules that provide 7 switchable ground outputs for operating solenoids, relays, telltales, and other devices. Each of these ground outputs has fault lines that feed back to the PCM's microprocessor. ODM #1 can also sense high voltage coming in which might damage the chip. DTC P1640 is used to monitor ODM #1's overvoltage sense line.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
Test Condition
Engine running at least 10 seconds.
Failure Condition
Overvoltage is sensed for 2 seconds.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The PCM will illuminate the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) when the diagnostic runs and fails.
The PCM will record operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. This information will be stored in the Freeze Frame and Failure Records.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
The PCM will turn the MIL OFF after three consecutive drive trips that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
A Last Test Failed (current) DTC will clear when the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
A History DTC will clear after forty consecutive warm-up cycles with no failures of any emission related diagnostic test.
Use a scan tool to clear DTCs.
Interrupting PCM battery voltage may or may not clear DTCs. This practice is not recommended. Refer to Clearing Diagnostic Trouble Codes in PCM Description and Operation.
Diagnostic Aids
Since an overvoltage at ODM #1 should also trigger DTC P0563, the diagnosis for DTC P0563 may be used if vehicle voltage is actually too high.
A loose or faulty connection at generator L terminal may cause DTC P1640 to set intermittently.
Test Description
Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Table.
If ignition voltage and IPC battery voltage are within 1.5 volt of each other, there may be a system voltage problem. If they are not within 1.5 volt of each other, find out why the PCM is different.
Checking if PCM ignition voltage is actually displaying system voltage.
1
Was the Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?
--
yes- Go to Step 2
no -Go to A Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check
2
Start and idle the engine.
Using a scan tool note the Ignition 1 display.
Compare this voltage to the voltage displayed by the vehicle message center.
Are PCM and vehicle voltage readings different by more than the value specified?
---1.5 volts
yes - Go to Step 3
no - Fault not present. Refer to Diagnostic Aids
3
Using DVM J 39200 measure voltage to ground on PCM fuse (installed).
Is voltage measured and the Ignition 1 voltages different by more than the value specified?
---1.5 volts
yes - Go to Step 4
no - Perform Charging System Check
4
Check for high resistance in CKT 439.
Repair high resistance if needed.
Was a repair made to CKT 439?
--
yes - Go to Powertrain Control Module Diagnosis for Verify Repair
no - Go to Step 5
5
Check PCM terminal contact at connector C1 terminal 19 and connector C2 terminal 37.
Repair terminal contact if needed.
Was terminal contact repaired?
--
yes - Go to Powertrain Control Module Diagnosis for Verify Repair
no - Go to Step 6
6
Replace the PCM (Go to PCM Replacement/Programming ).
Is the replacement complete?
--
Go to Powertrain Control Module Diagnosis for Verify Repair
02-14-2007, 03:12 AM
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Im using a Modis Scanner made from snap on ( $2k ).
Its saying something about the Quad Driver problems (maybe input/output too high?)
(quad driver is in the ECM)
Thanks alot!
Its saying something about the Quad Driver problems (maybe input/output too high?)
(quad driver is in the ECM)
Thanks alot!
