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$400 ls2/ls6 take off heads unported
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$1250 Texas speed 2.5 heads
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LS6 take off heads or TSP 2.5 heads
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LS6 take off heads or TSP 2.5 heads
Got a 224R on a 112 pure street car. Looking to get to 400 at the wheels what would you pick. I am on a budget so im looking for the best bang for the buck.
I would pick ls6 heads but im wondering how much im leaving on the table compaired to the TSP 2.5 heads
I would pick ls6 heads but im wondering how much im leaving on the table compaired to the TSP 2.5 heads
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I voted for the TSPs, they have smaller chambers for more compression, they will be brand new, ported, shorter runners will give you more torque, I think these heads would be a better choice.
However...I dont thing you will have a problem hitting 400 rwhp with the LS6s untouched either, if you have longtubes and an LS6 intake with a good tune in an M6 I think you will be right where you want to be.
However...I dont thing you will have a problem hitting 400 rwhp with the LS6s untouched either, if you have longtubes and an LS6 intake with a good tune in an M6 I think you will be right where you want to be.
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I'd go with PRC LS6 Stage 1.0 heads, they advertise 50RWHP over stock heads
You'd be leaving 25-30RWHP on the table by running stock unported LS6' and by the time you buy dual springs $250-275 your only 200-400 away from another 25-30 RWHP
and I have some for sale for CHEAP!!!!!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts-sale/933900-tsp-prc-stage-1-0-ls6-heads-w-660-springs-1020-shipped-ls7-lifters-115-a.html
You'd be leaving 25-30RWHP on the table by running stock unported LS6' and by the time you buy dual springs $250-275 your only 200-400 away from another 25-30 RWHP
and I have some for sale for CHEAP!!!!!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts-sale/933900-tsp-prc-stage-1-0-ls6-heads-w-660-springs-1020-shipped-ls7-lifters-115-a.html
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One more thing. With a small cam like that, you should be able to mill the 243s. There's guys on here that are much more knowledgeable than I when it comes to milling and determining what compression works best with what combo, so I'll just leave it at that. Just another thing to consider.
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i have done tons and tons of research, following different combos between these two heads and honestly I can't see the reason to get the PRC's. You can get a pair of 243's BRAND NEW from patriot for $665 with DOUBLE VALVE SPRINGS. Then have Patrick G spec you a custom cam, most likely it would be like Ryan L's (search for his thread, he made 432 rwhp and 399 rwtq with a 224/230 113 XFI cam, he didn't even have full bolt ons!! to back it up a C6 auto made the same power and backed it with consistent 11.2's @ 120mph) I have just found that with the right came shaft the stock 243's are very impressive, and CHEAP!!
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i have done tons and tons of research, following different combos between these two heads and honestly I can't see the reason to get the PRC's. You can get a pair of 243's BRAND NEW from patriot for $665 with DOUBLE VALVE SPRINGS. Then have Patrick G spec you a custom cam, most likely it would be like Ryan L's (search for his thread, he made 432 rwhp and 399 rwtq with a 224/230 113 XFI cam, he didn't even have full bolt ons!! to back it up a C6 auto made the same power and backed it with consistent 11.2's @ 120mph) I have just found that with the right came shaft the stock 243's are very impressive, and CHEAP!!
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Im running the TSP 2.5 LS6's with 224/228 on 114 lsa and made 410/400 with mac mids threw full exhaust (no cats) and stock intake.....Plan on a 408 down the road so I went with the LS6 castings
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You can get a pair of 243's BRAND NEW from patriot for $665 with DOUBLE VALVE SPRINGS. Then have Patrick G spec you a custom cam, most likely it would be like Ryan L's (search for his thread, he made 432 rwhp and 399 rwtq with a 224/230 113 XFI cam, he didn't even have full bolt ons!! to back it up a C6 auto made the same power and backed it with consistent 11.2's @ 120mph) I have just found that with the right came shaft the stock 243's are very impressive, and CHEAP!!
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I might be a little late to respond, but the numbers in my sig include full exhaust, cold-air 'intake', and an UD pulley. I usually tend to not mention the small mods, but I thought I'd just point it out for the sake of argument. 243s can't be beat for the money and are matched well with the 224/230 XFI cam you mentioned. Stock 243s don't gain much flow over .600 lift, so the ~.600 lifts of the XFI lobes made the most sense since it seemed to be the most efficient daily driver cam paired with these heads. I'm sure a ported FAST would yield 20-25rwhp more, but I would have to look into new injectors and a better clutch at that point, not to mention another tune. I'm content for now and think I found a nice balanced, 'budget' set up.
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dude lol are you foreal no offense but why wouldn't you spend the extra money for a true port job & fully assembled for a cheaper price and they'd flow way better pimp