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Anyone know what happens when you disconnect just one O2 sensor?

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Old 08-12-2008, 03:42 PM
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Default Anyone know what happens when you disconnect just one O2 sensor?

My Turbo hotside configuration has the passenger side stock NB (Narrow Band) O2 sensor in the log manifold while the drivers side NB is in the down pipe. This means that the drivers side O2 sensor is redundantly reading the passenger side plus any feedback the drivers side bank of cylinders is providing. At the very least, this setup has the potential to read inaccurately. So, I'm wondering what the best solution would be...
1. Weld on a second O2 bung on the down pipe and transfer the passenger side NB O2 to it.

2. Piggy back the passenger side O2 wires to the drivers side O2 sensor (methinks the PCM would not like this)

3. Simply disconnect the passenger side O2 Sensor connector and let the PCM determine fueling from that single source.
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Why not put the sensor in right after the drivers side manifold?
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The way this log manifold is configured, there's no room. Almost as soon as cylinder #1 enters the log manifold, the manifold pipe connects to the turbo's exhaust housing. THanks for responding
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I just went out, jacked up the car, disconnected the drivers side (post turbo) O2 sensor. The wide band is still in the down pipe so I can tell what the PCM has decided to do fuel wise. I'm going for a drive and I'll report back.
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open loop tune if your not running both o2s its going to stay in open loop any way and not having one narrow band on each bak will drive fueling crazy.
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Okay. I'm back. It looks like the Pcm either just stayed in Open Loop or the single O2 in the passenger side commanded fuel. Either way, the Wide Band O2 read damned near perfect for the 10% Ethanol/Gas I'm running. 13.8 to 14.1 during cruise. 11.5 during boost.
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Originally Posted by 98redorangeta
open loop tune if your not running both o2s its going to stay in open loop any way and not having one narrow band on each bak will drive fueling crazy.
Exactly what I was trying to prove. With one NB in the right setting (passenger side) and other NB post turbo AND reading Oxygen content from the passenger side intermixed with the drivers side Oxygen content, it must have been causing the PCM to furiously try to juggle lean then rich and back again. The Wideband would show the A/F bouncing extremely rapidly at every point between 14.x to 17x during cruising. Now it stays relatively stable at high 13.x to 14.1 with subtle changes during the same cruise rpm/mph. Before, it was always bucking at steady throttle because of lean or rich misfire, I suppose from the PCM trying to rectify the disparity of the two NB O2 Sensors.
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If bryan sends me over your efilive stock tune, i can modify os code to just make the ecm use just 1 o2 sensor and then it will just blend the correction for both banks. Then he would just have to put in your changed tables again and then you just run 1 driverside o2.
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Thanks for the offer I WISH I were running EfiLive instead of CroMag LT1 PCM code. I appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by wait4me
If bryan sends me over your efilive stock tune, i can modify os code to just make the ecm use just 1 o2 sensor and then it will just blend the correction for both banks. Then he would just have to put in your changed tables again and then you just run 1 driverside o2.
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OHH crap, i didnt see you are running an lt1. Give me a day, ill look thru and see if i can do it on an ls1 the same way.



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