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Old 05-02-2012, 04:24 PM
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I have a lt1 stroked 383. The guy that built it left cast heads and put in a cast stroker crank. Now my uncle is gonna sell me a dragonslayer crank I just need to know what heads to get..its also got the comp cam 503
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Keep the stock ones and have them ported by le or ai i finally listen to these guys on here and bought lt4 heads and intake and had Lloyd port them
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Continuing from your other thread I see...

What kind of budget are you working with? What kind of HP/ETs are you looking for? Something like the AI 200cc stock ported heads on a good bottom end can with good tuning and the proper bolt-ons can provide the results like in my signature.

And regardless of what heads you use the 503 isn't an optimal cam for a 383.
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I'm looking for around 400rwhp/400ftlbs for the heads I'm working with around 1500..
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That's not goin to cover it bud to be honest
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Maybe some trick flow 21 degree
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The only heads you will be able to buy for 1500 probably some Edlebrocks or even stock castings haha.
They are on the small side for a 383 anyways.
You need to spend monies to make powars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not even close to covering the cost to do it done right. You're looking at a bare minimum of $3000 to do the heads/valvetrain properly.
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maybe some LE1's, there around 1200. still need pushrods, rockers, gaskets..etc..etc..you'll eat up that 1500 quick..Go talk to AI or LE and tell them your budget and goals..
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$1500 can go away fast just in putting that crank into the engine once you rebalance, gaskets correct any crappy machining already done.
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Okay say I was working with 4500 what would be the best to do?
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Are you on the stock 10 bolt and stock rear suspension? If your on a really tight budget your best bet is to TAKE YOUR TIME and pick up a set of used ported stockers in the classifieds on here, every now and then a set of LE2s or something will come up.
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I am on stock suspension and 10 bolt although my uncle does have a 12 bolt idk if he's selling though.
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400rwhp can be obtained on a stock CI engine with AI/LE heads/cam setup.
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I dont know what it costs to port a set of stock head but if it is 1500 to do it. I would get a set of AFR's for 2k or with valves and and completed for 2500. Then you have a 3/4 deck to do anything you want down the road. Plus you get 2.02 or 2.08 intake valves depending on head size. Just get the size of runners for you application. Get to big of head (runners) and street driveablity will go down and power will not be right. If doing 400 or so hp I would think 190's or 195's would be good. But best to call them and see what they would recommend.

I did the AFR castings with TPIS porting. Those flow between the AFR 195's and the 210's if I remember correctly. NA I am at about 450 but I built the motor to be blown so I figured to keep street performance and decent milage talking 25 mpg out on interstate. But yet big enough to put boost to it and make some big numbers.
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Originally Posted by Bigtoyz
I dont know what it costs to port a set of stock head but if it is 1500 to do it. I would get a set of AFR's for 2k or with valves and and completed for 2500. Then you have a 3/4 deck to do anything you want down the road. Plus you get 2.02 or 2.08 intake valves depending on head size. Just get the size of runners for you application. Get to big of head (runners) and street driveablity will go down and power will not be right. If doing 400 or so hp I would think 190's or 195's would be good. But best to call them and see what they would recommend.

I did the AFR castings with TPIS porting. Those flow between the AFR 195's and the 210's if I remember correctly. NA I am at about 450 but I built the motor to be blown so I figured to keep street performance and decent milage talking 25 mpg out on interstate. But yet big enough to put boost to it and make some big numbers.
For the price of those AFRs you could have a set of ported stock castings that can outperform those AFRs AND it includes a custom grind camshaft tailored to your needs. It sounds like AFRs are out of the OPs budget and, given his inexperience, they aren't the head for him.
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Ported stock heads have been well into the 9s NA, nitrous and boost, including a twin turbo car putting over 1000rwhp down. The guy claiming you need aftermarket heads surely means his setup made 450flywheel HP. If you look at Ramair95TA's setup that is 455 at the tire through an automatic and 9" so it is likely up closer to 550 at the flywheel. Not to mention the ported trickflow 21degree from that same company has recently done 490rwhp with a hydraulic cam.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...o-results.html
Could have those heads for the same $2500.

Have to watch out for the bench racers and look for actual results.

The guy I bought my first set of core LT1 heads from was selling them so he could buy TPIS ported AFRs, end of that winter I had a junkyard shortblock Caprice with ported GM heads and he had a stroker camaro with ported AFR heads and my pig was as fast on street tires as his was on ET Streets. When I sold those heads he seriously considered buying them back so he could put a good performing head on rather than the TPIS ported AFR. The cash just wasn't there at the time.
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that was not at the flywheel for the 450......that was done in the car on a chassis dyno.


And I dont doubt that lt1 stock castings are in the 9's, but then my question is how relieable are they?
These aftermarket heads have a 3/4 inch deck for a reason. How many runs do they do before they
have to change head gaskets because they have blown out? Are they just track cars? How many
street driven miles on them? From what I have read and have experienced unless they like dropping
there motors out of these f-bodys or vette...or anything else that is a tight fit....its better to be safe
than sorry.

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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lets race our dynos again!!!!!!!!



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A set of stockers ported by the right folks are more than adequate for most applications. And don't base a whole lot of your decisions on a dyno number. Find someone whose accomplishing what you want to do and pick their brain. My old car still runs a set of LPE/Eric Bradby ported stockers with 2.00/1.56 valves, a weenie 226/234 .568" cam, and is still running 11.20s at 122ish...going on its 17th year...and my old car only makes 375rwhp on a calibrated mustang dyno.

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