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Old 09-07-2006, 12:21 AM
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Question SuperVic thoughts: FI vs Carb

Ok so I almost have a quote from LME on my SV buildup. But recently I started entertaining the idea of going with a Race Demon 1050 series carb (something in that flow range) and running a lower psi Aero FP regulator (8psi vs 47psi or so). I have all the other fuel system ready to install (Aero 1000 pump, Aero billet filter, AN fittings/line, etc. I've seen some running this setup and absolutely shine, yet most folks today are hands down Fuel Injection junkies (including myself), but it's just something I'm considering. LME would still do the fitup for 23deg heads for the intake bolts, max port the internal, port match for my ported AFR-210 heads but I could just have them hold off from welding on the injector bungs.

If I done this I'd still use my pcm for timing control, gauges, speedo etc, just not use the FI wiring and when I go to FAST I could still adjust my timing myself as required. It should be close with either FI or Carb on the timing once you get it dialed in right while it's FI like it is now.

Just looking for some knowledge base and ideas/thoughts here.
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Stay FI brett.

Dont know right from wrong in the FI vs Carb but i do know FI hasnt steered me wrong.

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Originally Posted by Speed Density
Stay FI brett.

Dont know right from wrong in the FI vs Carb but i do know FI hasnt steered me wrong.

Tony.
yeah Tony I know your right and deep down inside I concur, regardless I love throwing ideas out there, not afraid to ask a question in general much less come up with ideas. I realize that would be probably turning back to "really old school".

Think I'm going to just let them build the FI SuperV like it should be....I need to just settle down and get the 10's down and quit looking so hard at 9's right now.
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Dont do it, cars got a good thing going for it now, stick with it man
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
Dont do it, cars got a good thing going for it now, stick with it man
I need to go to bed...been out wrenching on PEPE for Friday's track visit and I'm ADD'n about **** I want or think I want.

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Bret,

Why the Super? We did the "E" on my car, its a lot easier to start with and has some good material to port.

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Stay with FI. It is a higher accomplishment to go fast with fuel injection. We are trying to tweak the tune on mine right now so it will run right. Hopefully dynoing it next week. Yes it is harder to tune fuel injected cars but it is well worth it in the end.
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Why the Super? We did the "E" on my car, its a lot easier to start with and has some good material to port.
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Originally Posted by aggiez28
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5 lbs means nothing.
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Port cross section and the fact that in fully ported form it's about 20hp over a fully ported Vic E. The weight difference can be closer to 10lbs.

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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Port cross section and the fact that in fully ported form it's about 20hp over a fully ported Vic E. The weight difference can be closer to 10lbs.

Bret

You can make the same power with a fully ported Victor E and have more hood clearance than using the Super Vic. If it is a 10 lb difference....that is not worth the hassle. They are both good intakes. Just decide what you want.............hood clearance but have to do more port work(Victor E) or less hood clearance and have to drill and weld injector bungs and rail brackets(Super Vic). I just did not want to have to go to a 5" cowl hood so I chose the E.
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5 lbs means nothing.
true but some people are picky abotu small weight changes.
i knew there were other factors but i wasnt 100% sureon my info so i didnt want to post it. i figure posting nothign is better than posting wrong/bad info
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Stay FI You don't want to be our poster child
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No the 20hp is from porting both without welding either one up. Either way they both have advantages, I just wish Edelbrock would have done better with that Vic E deal, it's the only bad one of those carb EFI Intakes they make, the other stuff is based on the best intake designs they have for the particular motors, not so with the SBC.

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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
Stay FI You don't want to be our poster child
werd HomieG....

well to answer a few posts since last night, I'm choosing the SuperVic just because the "bigdogs" have been using it successfully, friend of mine had the VicE, it did ok, but like Tony and some others said the SV is pretty substantial in the gains, especially with good heads which I'm confident are being held back right now. I have a 3" SS hood as you see in the sig so I have plenty of clearance, not concerened with 5 lbs if that's the only difference, might be only 4 lbs when they finish porting it anyway

I'll stick with FI, just don't wanna go backwards much less become a posterchild.
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Originally Posted by BRETTINATOR
werd HomieG....

well to answer a few posts since last night, I'm choosing the SuperVic just because the "bigdogs" have been using it successfully, friend of mine had the VicE, it did ok, but like Tony and some others said the SV is pretty substantial in the gains, especially with good heads which I'm confident are being held back right now. I have a 3" SS hood as you see in the sig so I have plenty of clearance, not concerened with 5 lbs if that's the only difference, might be only 4 lbs when they finish porting it anyway

I'll stick with FI, just don't wanna go backwards much less become a posterchild.

I have the Victor E not the SV.
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Originally Posted by Tony Shepherd
I have the Victor E not the SV.
oh ok, hell I'm 42 sure my eyes are going bad ...I can still see down the track though
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If you run the carb you will probably have to trim your cowl a bunch to make it fit.
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Why isn't the accel pro-ram ever considered for these single plain builds?
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Originally Posted by stroked30th
Why isn't the accel pro-ram ever considered for these single plain builds?

Not sure. Have any pics of it?


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