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Old 07-31-2014, 11:24 AM
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I would assume that purchasing one of these would not involve an exchange. They are not the same trans so why would there be an exchange?

If it is priced like the other Magnums it would be a good deal. The cost of purchasing a used T56 and getting it rebuilt to handle a similar power level would cost quite a bit more.
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Originally Posted by ss performance
I would assume that purchasing one of these would not involve an exchange. They are not the same trans so why would there be an exchange?

If it is priced like the other Magnums it would be a good deal. The cost of purchasing a used T56 and getting it rebuilt to handle a similar power level would cost quite a bit more.

Because the current "Magnum's" are 6060 conversions built into a modified F-Body casing, or at certainly the tailhousing is an F-Body..

Hence they may wish an old core. Or they may not, maybe they use new parts ?

Obviously any new trans from Tremec will not have this requirement.

For the yoke, I had my T56 converted with the Viper MS.

This is the yoke that was supplied for me.

http://www.northerndrivetrain.com/pr...3-3-3931X.html

This is the billet MW yoke beside the old cast yoke, you can see the difference.

http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p778..._spline_o.html







Bare in mind this is listed as a 30 spline, so may not be suitable for your transmission.

But I'm sure the dimensions and makeup of the 31 spline or whatever you use would be similar.

The billet piece is more compact, and pulls the main body some 3/4" or close further away from the trans, the actual bit that slips into the trans is also shorter, but still more than enough spline engagement.
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Originally Posted by ss performance
I would assume that purchasing one of these would not involve an exchange. They are not the same trans so why would there be an exchange?

If it is priced like the other Magnums it would be a good deal. The cost of purchasing a used T56 and getting it rebuilt to handle a similar power level would cost quite a bit more.
Yep, I agree. Curious though as to what the final pricing will be.
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Originally Posted by ss performance
I would assume that purchasing one of these would not involve an exchange. They are not the same trans so why would there be an exchange?

If it is priced like the other Magnums it would be a good deal. The cost of purchasing a used T56 and getting it rebuilt to handle a similar power level would cost quite a bit more.
Like stevie says, they can be built inside the t56 housing so an exchange is still feasible.

Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Because the current "Magnum's" are 6060 conversions built into a modified F-Body casing, or at certainly the tailhousing is an F-Body..

Hence they may wish an old core. Or they may not, maybe they use new parts ?

Obviously any new trans from Tremec will not have this requirement.

For the yoke, I had my T56 converted with the Viper MS.

This is the yoke that was supplied for me.

http://www.northerndrivetrain.com/pr...3-3-3931X.html

This is the billet MW yoke beside the old cast yoke, you can see the difference.

http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p778..._spline_o.html







Bare in mind this is listed as a 30 spline, so may not be suitable for your transmission.

But I'm sure the dimensions and makeup of the 31 spline or whatever you use would be similar.

The billet piece is more compact, and pulls the main body some 3/4" or close further away from the trans, the actual bit that slips into the trans is also shorter, but still more than enough spline engagement.
That billet piece looks to be exactly what i need, and judging by your dimensions, would make my driveshaft the correct length. I estimated needing about 1" less on the overall length.

I know on regular t56 fbodies, they recommend putting the yoke until it bottoms out and then pulling it out about 1/2" or so to determine driveshaft length. The longer output shaft on this unit means you can still do it this way but you'll have a decent amount more spline engagement once you back that yoke off some.
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And just FYI (I'm not saying the trans in this thread will come this way) but this is what happened to me

T56 Magnum supplied slip yoke (31spline)
http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p196..._magnum__.html

Stock Fbody T56 slip yoke (27 spline)
http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p252...e_1350_se.html

Overall, the Magnum slip yoke it a 1/2" longer, the barrel is 7/8" longer. My driveshaft was already a tad long, so this is where the added length gave me problems.

This yoke would be best for the swap (31 spline):
http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p773...31_spline.html

its only an 1/8" longer overall, the barrel is still .5 longer than stock but it should be alright.

Moral of the story? If you are planning getting this trans, get just swing the extra cash and get a driveshaft with it haha

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Old 12-03-2014, 03:12 PM
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Any updated info on this?

**edit** .... Tremec says "hoping to release by 2nd quarter of 2015".

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Can't wait.
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I'm eagerly waiting also. My cost will definitely be offset by near zero down-time. I don't have the extra garage space to have my car sitting while my trans is shipped out for upgrading. Just order new trans and clutch, and swap it out. Then consider selling original T56 to further offset the cost.

Tick performance upgraded model for direct bolt in doesn't look too bad, but maybe Tremec can get it a bit lower
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Interested for sure, but it's all dependant on their price v Ticks for the same product, plus for me freight is a killer.
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Just queried this again a few days ago.

Seems this has been put on hold....so it aint gona be happening any time soon, if ever from Tremec.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Just queried this again a few days ago.

Seems this has been put on hold....so it aint gona be happening any time soon, if ever from Tremec.
suprised there is more of a market for it in mustangs then fbodies. specially with everyone doing lsx retro swaps and stock ls1 t56s going for 1000-1500. :/
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Are these Magnums basically just a 6060, with an F Body tail housing ?

Or what exactly is done or needed for the swap ?
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mine is ready to bolt in from D&D it's a t56 case with tr6060 guts, it came with a correct input, output shaft. Also came with the power tower shifter. I might need a new driveshaft but will figure it out when I put it in. you also get to chose the gearing.
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I dont mean that, I mean what work do that actually do to the 6060 to turn it into an F-Body replacement

is it mainly just the tail section they change ?
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Originally Posted by john lolos
mine is ready to bolt in from D&D it's a t56 case with tr6060 guts, it came with a correct input, output shaft. Also came with the power tower shifter. I might need a new driveshaft but will figure it out when I put it in. you also get to chose the gearing.
Cost?
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http://www.ddperformance.com/custom-...ms-f-body-gto/
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And I guess this largely answers my other question.

Buy a TR6060 Magnum, and this is all that's needed to convert to T56 fitment

http://www.ddperformance.com/bk5-con...060-to-magnum/
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That link is to convert a TR6060 to a Magnum rear end . It does not yeild a 4th gen Fcar build.
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Good call, my mistake


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