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Old 07-20-2011, 11:25 AM   #1
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So I drove the G8 1150 miles back to Illinois (home town) to have my brother put a tune on the ECM and TCM using HP tuners and a friends dynojet. My mods are Vararam CAI and 2.5" catback with x-pipe and magnaflow exhaust. It was 62% humidity that day and 92 degrees. His computer was not set for SAE corrected numbers. The car put down 304rwhp baseline and after 5 pulls we were able to get 325rwhp out of it. I was happy with the 20hp but I felt the baseline was low compared to other threads I have seen and people I have talked to. Does anyone have any idea if these numbers would be comparable to most G8s with my mods if SAE corrected?

I was expecting around 340-350.

Sorry I dont have the graph scanned on to my computer yet but it peaked around 5500rpm.

Thanks for the input.
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Not sure why you were expecting higher numbers. You have very minimal mods. The Vararam works when at speed and air is being rammed in. The x pipe is very minimal. Long tubes would of made a much better difference. Picking up 20rwhp from the tune is damn good and if you got the trans tuned well, that makes a hugh difference.
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ditch DOD and change out to a 3 bolt cam and pick up a ton of power. Headers and Cam you see people on the g8 boards making 400+
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Thanks for the replies guys. Maybe my expectations were a little high for my mods but I have seen people with cat back and vararam make 340. The tranny tune is ok but I expected a bigger difference. We used a manual from thetuningschool.com for the 6L80.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Maybe my expectations were a little high for my mods but I have seen people with cat back and vararam make 340. The tranny tune is ok but I expected a bigger difference. We used a manual from thetuningschool.com for the 6L80.
Tuning the trans should of made a huge difference. My wifes G8 will bark the 1-2 and 2-3 shift with the trans tuned. And we are at 5200' elevation. I took a lot of time dialing in the trans tune. If you need a tune, I could send you my HP file. You could open up 2 windows (your tune and my tune) and just go over all the trans parameters.
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Tuning the trans should of made a huge difference. My wifes G8 will bark the 1-2 and 2-3 shift with the trans tuned. And we are at 5200' elevation. I took a lot of time dialing in the trans tune. If you need a tune, I could send you my HP file. You could open up 2 windows (your tune and my tune) and just go over all the trans parameters.
If you could do that, that would be awesome and greatly appreciated!
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Yeah, trans tune should be a huge difference. Mine is AWFUL. I REALLY want to get it tuned but am worried about reliability and warranty.
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Your numbers are about where they should be. If you get a good set of LT headers you will pick up another 30+ rwhp.
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those are min numbers though i made 335 with rotofab and tune but the dyno might be tight track times gives us a better idea of how strong it is since not all dynos are the same
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No one has to worry about dynos being the same or not. Establish your stock baseline then observe the deltas. What people should be saying is "you should expect +this/+that with your mods" not "this/that".

Did you get a stock baseline?
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No one has to worry about dynos being the same or not. Establish your stock baseline then observe the deltas. What people should be saying is "you should expect +this/+that with your mods" not "this/that".

Did you get a stock baseline?
Ya stock baseline was 304rwhp before doing any tuning. So it picked up 21rwhp on the tune. Which I was happy with
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Ya stock baseline was 304rwhp before doing any tuning. So it picked up 21rwhp on the tune. Which I was happy with
With those mods, +18 to +22 peak is about right for a tune.

I had the luck to do my build-up in stages with the same shop on the same dyno using the same SAE correction (Brian Reckart at Reckart Performance Tuning - *great* shop and strongly recommended by me). Here's how it phased up over time (numbers are peak rwhp/rwtq):

Stock baseline - 294/313

AFE dry filter intake, no tune - 304/324 (this was dead on with AFE's advertised expectations, impressive from a vendor to say the least)

Intake+tune - 324/346

Add Kook's 1-7/8" LTH + catted x-pipe to above - 358/372

Add DOD delete plus my custom Comp grind to above - 407/390

End results - +113/+77

Future - 4" intake + 102mm LS3 card MAF (stock MAF is current restriction)

Good luck modding!
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Thanks johnbell2. You got some nice numbers for you car!
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This is why I like to dyno stock to get a good baseline. Alot of people wonder what they gained from new mods, but don't have anything to compare it to except other people's dyno sheets.

SlwSVT, I'd be interested in seeing your trans tune also, if possible. Thanks!
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It's just Dyno numbers... Take it to the track. I am making 414rwhp and 392rwtq with the mods in my sig.
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So I drove the G8 1150 miles back to Illinois (home town) to have my brother put a tune on the ECM and TCM using HP tuners and a friends dynojet. My mods are Vararam CAI and 2.5" catback with x-pipe and magnaflow exhaust. It was 62% humidity that day and 92 degrees. His computer was not set for SAE corrected numbers. The car put down 304rwhp baseline and after 5 pulls we were able to get 325rwhp out of it. I was happy with the 20hp but I felt the baseline was low compared to other threads I have seen and people I have talked to. Does anyone have any idea if these numbers would be comparable to most G8s with my mods if SAE corrected?

I was expecting around 340-350.

Sorry I dont have the graph scanned on to my computer yet but it peaked around 5500rpm.

Thanks for the input.
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Not trying to be a smart *** but why would you drive 1150 miles
to get a tune when PatG doesn't live that far from you ?? He lives in
Victoria TX and is one of the best G8 tuners out there. His G8
made 505hp NA.
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Not trying to be a smart *** but why would you drive 1150 miles
to get a tune when PatG doesn't live that far from you ?? He lives in
Victoria TX and is one of the best G8 tuners out there. His G8
made 505hp NA.
Honest question. I was going back to Illinois for the weekend anyways, thats where I am originally from, and my brother has had hp tuners for awhile now. We also had access to a dyno for free. Made sense to me to only spend the gas money, as I was going there anyway, to get a tune. Plus money for extra stuff including a $400 tune have been out of the question due to medical bills.

But yes Patrick G is only 1.5 hours from me and unless I drive the G8 back to illinois again anytime soon I will prob be seeing him in the future. I am not super impressed with the tranny tune I got from the tuningschool.com's manual so I might have him adjust that portion soon.
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+1 on taking a look at your tranny tune slwsvt. Mine needs a bit of tweaking cuz I'm not happy with it as it is
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