who says an ls1 is only straight line :)
#1
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: crossett, Arkansas
Posts: 701
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#4
Launching!
iTrader: (10)
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Unfortunatly its not a LS1. American Sedan has to run 305 Carb'd Iron blocks
"No automatic transmissions, turbochargers/ superchargers, or convertibles are permitted in American Sedan. Cars are classified by body style and engine displacement. All components and/or assemblies utilized, except for engine block, shall originate on a vehicle of the body style and displacement classified or be authorized on the cars specification line. NOTE: For competition in American Sedan 1993+ Chevrolet Camaros and Pontiac Firebirds shall be prepared to 1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird engine and transmission specifications per current American Sedan Category Specifications.
Manufacturer: General Motors Corp.
Model/Year: Camaro/Firebird 1982-92 (Includes 1993- Camaro/Firebird and 04-06 GTO prepared to SCCA American Sedan specifications)
L / (CID): 5.0L / (305 CID)
No. of Cylinders: V-8
Bore (Range): 3.7400-3.7800
Stroke: 3.4750-3.4800
Firing Order: 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Compression Ratio: 10.30 Max.
Piston to Deck Clr: Not to exceed 0.000 above block deck surface (zero deck)
Valve Lift: 0.4800 Max. @ 0.0000 lash
Block Casting #s: 14010201, 14010202, 14010203, 14010231, 14016381, 10164548, 11068561, 14088551, 14093627, 14094766, 14093627, 14094766, 10049047, 14102058, 14016383, 355909, 361979, 460776, 460777, 460778, 10243878
Head Casting #s: 14101081, 14014416"
"No automatic transmissions, turbochargers/ superchargers, or convertibles are permitted in American Sedan. Cars are classified by body style and engine displacement. All components and/or assemblies utilized, except for engine block, shall originate on a vehicle of the body style and displacement classified or be authorized on the cars specification line. NOTE: For competition in American Sedan 1993+ Chevrolet Camaros and Pontiac Firebirds shall be prepared to 1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird engine and transmission specifications per current American Sedan Category Specifications.
Manufacturer: General Motors Corp.
Model/Year: Camaro/Firebird 1982-92 (Includes 1993- Camaro/Firebird and 04-06 GTO prepared to SCCA American Sedan specifications)
L / (CID): 5.0L / (305 CID)
No. of Cylinders: V-8
Bore (Range): 3.7400-3.7800
Stroke: 3.4750-3.4800
Firing Order: 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Compression Ratio: 10.30 Max.
Piston to Deck Clr: Not to exceed 0.000 above block deck surface (zero deck)
Valve Lift: 0.4800 Max. @ 0.0000 lash
Block Casting #s: 14010201, 14010202, 14010203, 14010231, 14016381, 10164548, 11068561, 14088551, 14093627, 14094766, 14093627, 14094766, 10049047, 14102058, 14016383, 355909, 361979, 460776, 460777, 460778, 10243878
Head Casting #s: 14101081, 14014416"
#5
If you watched that race, John didn't really earn his win this year. Its his fourth national championship in AS. The first place car (a mustang) was way out ahead but was disqualified after the race for a carb issue. That handed Heinrecy the win. Heinrecy is a pro driver. I like it because if you ever thought about going pro, we have a pro driver in an amateur class and really sets the bar high.
Engine rules in AS is the hot topic right now. There is discussion about allowing ls1 engines into the class. The rift is not obsoleting the current engine rules and force everyone to convert in order to stay competitive. I can see this starting an SCCA vs. NASA discussion. Been there done that. NASA uses a power to weight formula and does not care which engine you put in your car. Get your car dyno'd which then is calculated into how much your car must weigh. SCCA dictates strict engine rules to keep the racing close. Just two different philosophys on attaining the same goal. Close racing and cost containment. AS in SCCA and AI in NASA are similar and both expensive to run. So let the CMC (camaro/ mustang challenge) guys jump on this thread on why this is the class to be in. They'll tell you about close racing with stock engines which allows longevity on parts and good close racing and a spec tire that lasts. Nothing wrong with that either. Just lots of different ways to go racing in a pony car which is great. Its a great time to start racing with different avenues to take. Pick your poison.
FYI. John Heinrecy is the head of GM Performance Division. He developed the t1 suspension package for c5 corvettes. His racing in professional and amatear levels speak for itself. He should win all the time at the amateur level of motorsport..
Engine rules in AS is the hot topic right now. There is discussion about allowing ls1 engines into the class. The rift is not obsoleting the current engine rules and force everyone to convert in order to stay competitive. I can see this starting an SCCA vs. NASA discussion. Been there done that. NASA uses a power to weight formula and does not care which engine you put in your car. Get your car dyno'd which then is calculated into how much your car must weigh. SCCA dictates strict engine rules to keep the racing close. Just two different philosophys on attaining the same goal. Close racing and cost containment. AS in SCCA and AI in NASA are similar and both expensive to run. So let the CMC (camaro/ mustang challenge) guys jump on this thread on why this is the class to be in. They'll tell you about close racing with stock engines which allows longevity on parts and good close racing and a spec tire that lasts. Nothing wrong with that either. Just lots of different ways to go racing in a pony car which is great. Its a great time to start racing with different avenues to take. Pick your poison.
FYI. John Heinrecy is the head of GM Performance Division. He developed the t1 suspension package for c5 corvettes. His racing in professional and amatear levels speak for itself. He should win all the time at the amateur level of motorsport..
Last edited by trj20; 12-11-2006 at 01:35 AM.
#6
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (41)
And why didn't he earn it? Someone cheated and won, which mean they didn't really win and John did. And John is one of those guys who has my utmost respect. I've seen him autocross a Z06, which is a somewhat different set of skills. And I've seen a lot of road-racers not be able to do it *AT ALL*, which told me a lot about his ability. We were running about the same times, he in a Super Stock Z06, me in an ESP Formula, which at the time was right about where a SS Z06 and ESP car should have stacked up with National level talent in them.
And it's true that A-sedan's can't run LS1's, those cars are indeed carb'ed 305's in late bodies.
But check the sig, LS1's can and do win SCCA National Championships. I have 3 National Solo Titles and 2 ProSolo series titles, 5 in total 4 of which have been in my 2001 Z28. The other one was an '82 Z28 (but not much was really '82).
And it's true that A-sedan's can't run LS1's, those cars are indeed carb'ed 305's in late bodies.
But check the sig, LS1's can and do win SCCA National Championships. I have 3 National Solo Titles and 2 ProSolo series titles, 5 in total 4 of which have been in my 2001 Z28. The other one was an '82 Z28 (but not much was really '82).
__________________
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
18 SCCA National Championships in house, many more for our customers prove we know our stuff.Talk is cheap, results matter.
Check out our KONI prices, our Master Cylinder Brace, and new Xtracker Hub/wheel bearing upgrade kits!
www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
18 SCCA National Championships in house, many more for our customers prove we know our stuff.Talk is cheap, results matter.
Check out our KONI prices, our Master Cylinder Brace, and new Xtracker Hub/wheel bearing upgrade kits!