Cwarta

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Yea you look pretty stupid now.

NW-99SS

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Watched the video, I see the mods for the LS1 car don't include heads. Why all the H/C/I/E smack talk? It's a cam only bolt-on car with a stall and 100 shot.

Black Mare

Explain how i look stupid, by getting this kid so mad he literally goes outside, takes a picture of his car, comes back, takes the time to upload said picture, change his signature, post said picture with a note in front of it.. all because i trolled him and his ypipe only camEro.


Yeah man, i look super duper stupid right now.

adamantium

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lol damn 4pointslow really got to you.

HioSSilver

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Sure looks that way.

sw07gt

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This whole thread is why you look stupid.

4PointSlow

I trapped 104 mph in 4000 da in the middle of a 100 degree summer day stock. I don't see what the issue here is, the da does not hold steady year round at the track.

As for my 113 trap speed runs.... If I was at tulsa the same day(where the da was right at 0, versus 700-800 at thunder valley) I would have likely trapped 114...

With some bolt ons I'm hoping to hit the 350 whp mark, about 30 more than i make now, and trap 115-116 with my lighter stall. If I went to tulsa(much better air, as previously mentioned) maybe 117.

With that trap speed, I will be running mid 11's.

This bench racing and basing speed, off mods I have done along the way, is the reason it's as quick as it is. It's about optimization. I'm not that guy that doesn't know how to set it up, so just throws a cam in there and hope it runs good.







I also really don't see why anyone would waste their money on a cobra or 5.0.... They are twice the price and twice as expensive to mod. If the progress rate of my car doesn't prove what a waste of money those cars are, in terms of 1/4 mile ability for the money, then I don't know what does. Spend $25k for a fairy dust sprinkled 10 year old mustang to run 11's with bolt ons or $8k for a 10 year old ls1 f body to run 11's with bolt ons. It's not like the cobra is a luxury car, the interior is the same as a normal new edge mustang with the door panel that always falls apart.


Yes there are exceptions, but this is how I look at it after watching some of the cars run here at my track.

Stock LS1= 12's. Stock Cobra=12's. Stock 5.0=12's.

Bolt on LS1= 11's. Bolt on Cobra(ported/pullied included)=11's. Bolt on 5.0=11's.

Power adder ls1(n20, turbo, etc), 10's. Power adder cobra(TVS/whipple/e85), 10's. Power adders 5.0(TVS/e85)=10's.

All 3 capable of 9's with WR + power adder.

OneSlowV

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I really don't see why anyone would waste their money on a cobra or 5.0.... They are twice the price and twice as expensive to mod. If my car doesn't prove what a waste of money those cars are, in terms of 1/4 mile ability for the money, then I don't know what does.[/QUOTE]

Get over yourself lol! Not everybody want's a outdated car like a F-body. Reason i went from a F-body to a GTO and so on. The 5.0 is faster mod for mod than the ls1 its just how it is. And there are some 5.0s under 20k now a nice Ta isn't that much cheaper unless you wont a clapped out 150k mile plus car. And as far as mods the only thing that is more is cams.

4PointSlow

"Get over yourself lol! Not everybody want's a outdated car like a F-body. Reason i went from a F-body to a GTO and so on. The 5.0 is faster mod for mod than the ls1 its just how it is. And there are some 5.0s under 20k now a nice Ta isn't that much cheaper unless you wont a clapped out 150k mile plus car. And as far as mods the only thing that is more is cams."

I'm being realistic, I said 1/4 mile ability for the money.

Only ford guys use the term "clapped out", they are actually pretty nice cars when well taken care of.

Within 300 miles of me there are no 5.0's under $20k... and as far as mod for mod being faster? No.

MT-82 is a complete pos, I personally know 6 5.0 owners that are not on the original. Trans replacement is twice the price of a t56 at a minimum.

Tell me how much a built 6r80e is, then tell me how much a built 4l60e is... Tell me how much a stall is for a 6r80e, then tell me how much it is for a 4l60e.

Show me a way to get 100 whp through a 5.0 n/a for less than $1500.

My ls1 on street tires with $500 in bolt ons and free mods versus a 5.0 with a $300 intake, custom AED tune, drag radials. Both automatic with no room for excuses.


Here's a full bolt on 420 whp 5.0 same day... Same track... Same da....

4PointSlow

Please show me how the 5.0 is superior... Clearly it's not. I'm showing you how they run here and how my car runs here. Same track, same day, same prep. No bs, no excuses, period.


12.2 @ 115 for a full bolt on 5.0... I did 12.4 @ 113 mph on all season street tires, the same day. If I simply had tire on that day I would have easily matched that time. He has an upgraded intake manifold, headers, full exhaust but only traps ~2 mph more than me, insignificant difference. Auto ls1 cars usually trap low anyhow and I have none of those aforementioned mods.


Now obviously my car, and the 5.0s, would run faster times and traps at a better track like atco, houston, cecil, etc.

Also keep in mind this was in the best air of the whole year for my track.

OneSlowV

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Im still on the stock MT82 Fluid swap and a MGW shifter and its golden. Maybe your buddies can't shift a stick? Could be the reason for those shitty times they are running. And i don't have to show you how it is SUPERIOR the track times speak for these cars. I would gladly run any F-body with full boltons against my 5.0 dig or roll it wont matter to me.

sw07gt

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I would say people probably buy a Cobra or a 5.0 because they want one and can afford it, that's just a wild guess though. Not everyone cares about going as fast as possible for as little money as possible.

HioSSilver

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Just curious. ....have you been to the track yet? If so what did you run?

Gt4urass

If all you want is to go as fast as possible on the cheap, then you've made a decent choice. However, and I'm aware this will unfortunately cause a shitstorm...you can't legitimately compare the two cars from a quality, refinement, or comfort standpoint. The same is true when comparing similar era stangs to the new ones, so don't get all butthurt. They are far superior in every measurable way. Just the facts, such is progress. THAT, if I had to guess, is why they are more expensive...

Lawhead

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He said the 5.0 isn't superior to the LS1


LOLOLOLOL.

It's okay to be a fan of one or the other but the blinders have to come off at some point and realize what you're saying is just ignorance and denial....

big hammer

I agree.

Mike Morris

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I try not to feed the trolls but thanks for the laughs. I needed i after a shitty meeting.

big hammer

4.slow is on the money

Lawhead

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So butt hurt he takes pics of his y pipe to prove his worth on Ls1tech

islander033

Brandon is definitely on something. lol