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Old 10-17-2005, 09:34 PM
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Default 93 Z28 Vs. 94 Z28 - Who Would Win?

My friend and I have been debating who would win for ahwhile now, and I think we are gonna make a run sometime soon. I doubt we will make it to a track so it will probably be on an old highway sometime late at night. Here are the details...

My Car:

93 Z28, A4, 91k, 2.73's
Mods: K&N CAI, March Underdrive Pullys, Some Kind of Muffler with 4 inch tips, HyperTech Thermomaster Chip, 160 Stat.

His Car:

94 Z28, A4, 160k, 3.23's
Mods: Stock except for his exhaust, Cat collapsed and we removed it and welded a pipe so he is pretty much running without a cat and without tips. He also had a Corvette Servo put in when the transmisson was rebuilt.

The main difference is the gearing, I know 3.23's are theoretically better but I've read that the fastest LT1 from the factory was an auto with 2.73's.

Tell me what you guys think and I will post up after the race which will probably be this week. It should be close.
Old 10-18-2005, 12:29 AM
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Just took my car out for a test run, hadn't ran it really hard since I **** on a Maxima a couple months back. Sat it at the rev limiter and did a hard take off, letting off some so I could get traction but still spun a little bit. Went 0-60 fast as hell as always, and pulled pretty hard up until 90, then it shifted harder than I've felt it before, looked down again and was climbing towards 120, then past. Boom headlights a few seconds later, shut it down at 145. The car feels really strong at the moment, maybe I'm just getting used to driving it, plus the weather probably helps a bit... nice cool fall night. My car never runs over about 150 degrees though. I think we are gonna run somewhere tomorrow, we have been friends forever so no hard feelings on whoever takes the win. But we are both tired of people asking who's is faster without a definite yes or no answer. We are going to try and mark off a 1/4 as legit as possible, chances are he will take me, but I know my car is stronger up top... now if I can get it to be stronger down low... damn 2.73's
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id put my money on you so post the results
Old 10-18-2005, 09:34 AM
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My wifes car 93z a4 ran a 13.53 at 101mph with 200k miles on it. I would have to say the 93 hands down speed density rules!
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im gonna agree with kennyxg, im thinking 93 z28, but itll be close, depending on whos the better driver
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im gonna agree with kennyxg, im thinking 93 z28, but itll be close, depending on whos the better driver
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I think its gonna be close but i would put my money on the 93'Z28
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Karlis i didnt think you were that worried about it. I have lots of xperiencing of racing none of which has been legal so far and i helped build stock cars if i am in doubt i will do a couple of tricks
race yah soon rick aka guy with the 94 z28
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My vote goes to the 93 but it could go either way really. Let us know.
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Just go race you *****....god I hate these "Who would win" threads.....wither race or don't....THEN post.

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Originally Posted by SDB
Just go race you *****....god I hate these "Who would win" threads.....wither race or don't....THEN post.

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Well wasn't that a cute post, we want to race... it's just hard to find the time when you work all the damn time. We will race as soon as Rick is ready, I'm not waiting for anything but apparently he is.
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You'll win. A 2.73 car is no slower then a 3.23 car and much easier to launch. A 3.23 car will seem faster as it is traction limited and barks the tires on the 1-2 shift. A 2.73 car doesn't do any of those. It just pulls. It really boils down to the condition of both cars and the driver. LT1's for one hate hot weather and start petering off once they get anywhere above 195 degrees. That's why the LT4 knock module is so popular with them.

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Now just go and represent the speed density.
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Since when can a 2.73 NOT bark tires on the shift 1-2?? My 2.73 LT1 95 TA with an A4 would lay 41.5 feet of measured rubber on clean asphault with 245/50/16 Cooper Zeons when they were 500 miles broken in. WHen they had worn down some, it would lay about 3 or 4' on the 1-2 shift (admittedly, these were when the zeons had about 2-3K more miles left and the wear bars were ALMOST showing.
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I assume you mean 41.5 feet flooring from a standstill? Theres no way it would do that on the 1-2 shift.. From a standstill now I have to let off once I hit third because I'm almost spinning out at that point 4.10s rock!

I know my 3.23s would bark occasionally on the shift, but with the 4.10s it's very, very consistant haha
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Hey here are the results the 94 z28 WON, but it was only by 3/4 of a quarter of a car length. Renegade doesnt have the experience he had a half second delay off the line we only went for a quarter mile i have different rims and tires they are a lot taller profile if that made any difference i will say my buddy is a nut he went into a sharp *** turn at about 120 and kept it under control-------------------If we have time in the next week or so we will race again if we dont get any damn snow. We have a video of the burn out and us from the line until we let off a quarter mile away. Next time we are using to cameras and will edit it good
rick aka guy with the 94 Z28

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Dam you kids need to be safer on the streets , take it to the track and then it's safer and a real finish line.
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Yeah we need to make it to the strip, it was a good race and we will give Rick bragging rights until next time. We we're out there way too long because of cars driving by and scaring us... if you we do it on the street next time we need to do it later and on a more secure road where I won't be as nervous and won't sit on the line. I sat for about a half second to a second and he had a good 20 feet on me when I got going, nerves got to Me and he was the better driver tonight. If I get a good take off it will be pretty damn close. We raced the opposite way from what we usually race so I didn't see the corner coming up, luckily I handled it well.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
Since when can a 2.73 NOT bark tires on the shift 1-2?? My 2.73 LT1 95 TA with an A4 would lay 41.5 feet of measured rubber on clean asphault with 245/50/16 Cooper Zeons when they were 500 miles broken in. WHen they had worn down some, it would lay about 3 or 4' on the 1-2 shift (admittedly, these were when the zeons had about 2-3K more miles left and the wear bars were ALMOST showing.
My friend had a 97 2.73 30th anniversary Z28 that was in mint condition. He only put a CAI and a Flowmaster on it before he sold it for a 94 T/A M6 which he just put in a 383. The Z was a quick car, definitely a strong running LT1. He beat a number of M5 bolt on fox body cars (not by much though) and a 95 Z with 3.23's and a Loudmouth with me with him. The best race he was in with me in the car was against a 95 M5 Mustang with all the bolt ons (shorties, X, flowmasters dumped at axle, CAI, 65mm tb, 3.73's) and an E303 cam. He ended up beating it by 1/4 carlength to 110 in 2 different races. But despite this, his car could did chirp the tires on the 1-2 shift, even on a decent blacktop. I'd be much different if it had a shiftkit though. His car, and another guy I know who had a 2.73 LT1 T/A. That car too wouldn't chirp the tires either.

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