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Old 06-10-2012, 02:50 PM
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It's clear this is due to the monopolistic public education system.

This is an excellent video series if you have the free time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=bfTSYe72KsI
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reserved for when i have time to watch and comment lol
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Originally Posted by Jake_the_Snake
reserved for when i have time to watch and comment lol
Try to watch all three parts if you can. It really paints the full picture.
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Cliff notes style summary?
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Originally Posted by eLiT3SnIpEz
Cliff notes style summary?
Here's a good synopsis from the presenter.

http://www.libertyandlearning.com/do...d-sovereignty/
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I like it, and of course history has shown that the states did -in fact cede power to the federal government after the civil war in order to form the current union we have. As far as states reasserting their rights, I no longer see it as feasible due to the overarching control that the people have vested in their government and the possibility of martial law
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Originally Posted by I8ASaleen
I like it, and of course history has shown that the states did -in fact cede power to the federal government after the civil war in order to form the current union we have. As far as states reasserting their rights, I no longer see it as feasible due to the overarching control that the people have vested in their government and the possibility of martial law
The Civil War doesn't count. It was an illegal and immoral war waged by the tyrannical Lincoln. That's why it's necessary to go back to the founding when all parties were willing participants. But I agree to an extent. Interposition is a foreign concept. Of course, the federal government isn't consider or even mention such things. You think the power-hungry Chuck U. Schumer or Nancy Legosi would embrace such a concept?
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What your missing is the fact that, as of the reconstruction, the federal government holds the power of martial law over the states. I can't remember but I seem to recall several times during the reconstruction that the army was called in to subjugate a state that was not in compliance with the reconstruction initiatives.
This, in turn, led those states to humiliate themselves by "ceding" power to the federal gov't via subjugation.
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Originally Posted by I8ASaleen
What your missing is the fact that, as of the reconstruction, the federal government holds the power of martial law over the states. I can't remember but I seem to recall several times during the reconstruction that the army was called in to subjugate a state that was not in compliance with the reconstruction initiatives.
This, in turn, led those states to humiliate themselves by "ceding" power to the federal gov't via subjugation.
I'm not missing that fact. I'm disregarding the perversion by the nationalists.

Actually, that's not a fact. Martial law is not technically constitutional. Don't think of it as being "over the states." The military simply fills a civil function when in times or war, devastation, or whatever, the local courts are not open. That's a stipulation for martial law according to the Supreme Court. But don't even get me started on judicial review, which is not constitutional either.

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Originally Posted by Shackleford
The Civil War doesn't count. It was an illegal and immoral war waged by the tyrannical Lincoln. That's why it's necessary to go back to the founding when all parties were willing participants. But I agree to an extent. Interposition is a foreign concept. Of course, the federal government isn't consider or even mention such things. You think the power-hungry Chuck U. Schumer or Nancy Legosi would embrace such a concept?
Care to elaborate your view point on this matter?
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Disregarding it or not, the reality of it is that now the states no longer have the sovereignty and it would take a military coup to get it back.
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