what do you think?
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what do you think? I'm going to the track Thursday..the weather is suppose to be good (55ish degrees) at sea level etc... the car has full bolt ons except a under drive pulley, adj torque arm, SFC, ss3600 stall, nittos, and hptuners previous best 1/4 was 13.1 which was all stock in potentially worse weather.
my guess....
12.4 @110 w/ 1.75 60'
my guess....
12.4 @110 w/ 1.75 60'
I think you should hit your goal pretty easily. Look at my times in my sig and thats on a 120K mile 98 with just a few bolt-ons. I think your estimates are attainable and then some if you have some good DRs. I'm on totally stock suspension as well, except removed the front swaybar. I have cut a 1.653 60ft and actually pulled the front left wheel about 1 1/2" on Nitto 275-40-17 DRs.
Good luck, and let us know how you do.
Good luck, and let us know how you do.
Guessing... 12.6@108-109. Your car trapped high before, but I think 110 is still optimistic for an uncammed auto. Our cars are specced very similarly, and I'd expect a 108.5ish trap if I removed all my tools from my trunk during a run.
Steve's White LS1 car had a 224-228 cam, 3800 stall, longtubes, full tune, etc.. and still only trapped 113 at that track.
Good luck though, ya never know. Hope to see the SS at our gathering.
Steve's White LS1 car had a 224-228 cam, 3800 stall, longtubes, full tune, etc.. and still only trapped 113 at that track.
Good luck though, ya never know. Hope to see the SS at our gathering.
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Originally Posted by melchoir
Guessing... 12.6@108-109. Your car trapped high before, but I think 110 is still optimistic for an uncammed auto. Our cars are specced very similarly, and I'd expect a 108.5ish trap if I removed all my tools from my trunk during a run.
Steve's White LS1 car had a 224-228 cam, 3800 stall, longtubes, full tune, etc.. and still only trapped 113 at that track.
Good luck though, ya never know. Hope to see the SS at our gathering.
Steve's White LS1 car had a 224-228 cam, 3800 stall, longtubes, full tune, etc.. and still only trapped 113 at that track.
Good luck though, ya never know. Hope to see the SS at our gathering.
the only thing is even if i trap 109 thats aprox 2 more mph than your car which ran a 12.6...which should put me about 12.4 ish. BTW you need to lighten your car...also i think that the white car with a cam wasn't performing like it should. I think it may have been tired from the nitrous use from the previous owner (at least thats what i heard)
also which gathering are you referring too??
There's another local guy that's ran at BMP, very similar mods to mine (but with a 150 shot as well). Full bolt ons, 3400 stall, and his best on MT DRs is 12.5, forget the trap.
He traps over 120 with the 150 shot though, that's all I remember. I think he's going for AutoX now.
I sincerely hope you good luck, but wouldn't expect that 12.4. Be happy with a 12.6, and a 12.5 would be very nice.
The F-body meet on the local board is the gathering I'm referring to. This saturday night.
He traps over 120 with the 150 shot though, that's all I remember. I think he's going for AutoX now.
I sincerely hope you good luck, but wouldn't expect that 12.4. Be happy with a 12.6, and a 12.5 would be very nice.
The F-body meet on the local board is the gathering I'm referring to. This saturday night.
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it is true that times aren't as good as they seem to be online, howevre it seems pretty common for a bolt-on/ stalled car to run very low 12's...and im hoping with some tweaking ill be there too....have faith 
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Verdad Gallardo I only know of like one bolt on/stalled car to get low 12s at BMP. 01_Ram Air or whatever. I think he's got a 4000 stall, and 60's were LOW. On spray I think his 60 is 1.4s, without 1.5s I think.
Good luck though, maybe you'll knock out a 12.2 or something radical with that empty car of your's. ^_^
Good luck though, maybe you'll knock out a 12.2 or something radical with that empty car of your's. ^_^
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well im pretty confident the car can do it...however the old nittos are the limiting factor in my mind. 
but even with a decent 60' for our stall size( 17-18 range i think i can pull a 12.4-5 
and my car isn't too extraordinarily light all in all i think its about 120ish lbs light
bad news though BMP has some race or something so not test and tune thursday...so im probably going to be at immokalee shooting for 7's
but even with a decent 60' for our stall size( 17-18 range i think i can pull a 12.4-5 and my car isn't too extraordinarily light all in all i think its about 120ish lbs lightbad news though BMP has some race or something so not test and tune thursday...so im probably going to be at immokalee shooting for 7's
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what do you plan on doing to your car? you have full bolt-ons don't you? i think with MT drag radials you could definately run in the 7's assuming you can pull a 1.6x 60'
As the car sits, I'm sure I could hit a 7 with a better tire. My 1.75 60' was launching at 1k rpm.
I'm not sure what I want to do with the car. I'm still debating on a cam, but we'll see. I don't race it much anymore...
I'm not sure what I want to do with the car. I'm still debating on a cam, but we'll see. I don't race it much anymore...
you should have no trouble trapping 110 at sealevel in good air. @ 2,800' da in central indiana my junk trapped 110.9 with bolt-ons banging the limiter on 2-3 on an 85* evening.
i think you should ee 111-112 possibly, get some tires so you can clip 11s stock internal!!
i think you should ee 111-112 possibly, get some tires so you can clip 11s stock internal!!
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Originally Posted by s346k
you should have no trouble trapping 110 at sealevel in good air. @ 2,800' da in central indiana my junk trapped 110.9 with bolt-ons banging the limiter on 2-3 on an 85* evening.
i think you should ee 111-112 possibly, get some tires so you can clip 11s stock internal!!
i think you should ee 111-112 possibly, get some tires so you can clip 11s stock internal!!
woa...did you forget the headwind?
J/P i think 112 trap would be very optimistic...thats what my full bolt on M6 trapped. 110 for my car is plenty to make me satisfied
Originally Posted by Magnet
woa...did you forget the headwind? J/P i think 112 trap would be very optimistic...thats what my full bolt on M6 trapped. 110 for my car is plenty to make me satisfied
J/P i think 112 trap would be very optimistic...thats what my full bolt on M6 trapped. 110 for my car is plenty to make me satisfied Thread Starter
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112 for a full bolt-ons M6 is very respectable... and it trapped almost 89 in the 1/8th. It is HARD for me to believe a car can trap 81 in the 1/8th and then trap 109 in the quarter unless the launch was terrible and she made it all up on the long end. Your A4 does seem to trap well however i doubt it will trap 112 stock internal unless you have it very light. Look around on this website and you will see 112 for a M6 is very good and 112 for a A4 is almost unattainable stock internal...
however...i like a fellow who thinks i can achieve my goal
however...i like a fellow who thinks i can achieve my goal
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2000 Z28 A4 - bolt-ons (ls6 manifold, stock tb) + stall - 3,600 lb raceweight
12.25 @ 109.4 - m/t drag radial
12.78 @ 110.3 - goodyear rsa
traction brings down your trap...evident by your results as well. Once you put a tire on it your trap lowered.
12.25 @ 109.4 - m/t drag radial
12.78 @ 110.3 - goodyear rsa
traction brings down your trap...evident by your results as well. Once you put a tire on it your trap lowered.
Originally Posted by Magnet
traction brings down your trap...evident by your results as well. Once you put a tire on it your trap lowered.
my next project won't need much of a hook to run sub 12 second passes.
