1971 Nova Swap - 02 LS1/A4
What would you like to see?
Stock 69 Nova rear (12 bolt)
Landrum lowering drag springs
Cal-Tracs
Home-made 3/4" offset shackles that move the leafs in 3/4" for a little clearance
New spring perches welded on
The wheels are steel rallys from Early wheel...great guys to deal with
I am going stealth mode with the car so I have rallys on all corners.
Might step it up one day with some 17's but not yet.
Stock 69 Nova rear (12 bolt)
Landrum lowering drag springs
Cal-Tracs
Home-made 3/4" offset shackles that move the leafs in 3/4" for a little clearance
New spring perches welded on
The wheels are steel rallys from Early wheel...great guys to deal with
I am going stealth mode with the car so I have rallys on all corners.
Might step it up one day with some 17's but not yet.
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Update time Well, its been a while, car has been sitting idle.. been on Vacations and cars shows a lot.. Reno for HAN & Goodguys in August, Vegas and Monterey this month and then on a Cruise next month.. so no funds for the wheels, tires and exhaust.. oh well... Got the Chevelle to drive...
I did buy some small parts and pretty much completed the brake system. But still unable to put the front caliper on due to no wheel will fit around the caliper.. so the 15" stay on for now.
I did try my Chevelle front 17x8 w/4 1/2 bs on the Nova, front and rear.. to get a move physical idea of what might better work.
A few pictures with findings
Front.. I think the 17x8 w/5" BS will work ok, but will need to do something about them fender bolts..
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Rear.. I am thinking 17x9 (or 17x9.5 with more BS) w 5.125" BS. with these wheels/tires and BS, I can't fit a finger between them, maybe less than 1/2"
Anyone else got a set up that worked ? I see Chicago suggested 9" with 5.375bs on the rear.. I do like they way the do tuck up close...
Looking at Hook's setup of them RPM or TWS wheels.. they look pretty good. .but I might go with a polished or chrome setup.. or maybe the Billet Specialties Street Lites. ?
BC
I did buy some small parts and pretty much completed the brake system. But still unable to put the front caliper on due to no wheel will fit around the caliper.. so the 15" stay on for now.
I did try my Chevelle front 17x8 w/4 1/2 bs on the Nova, front and rear.. to get a move physical idea of what might better work.
A few pictures with findings
Front.. I think the 17x8 w/5" BS will work ok, but will need to do something about them fender bolts..
]
Rear.. I am thinking 17x9 (or 17x9.5 with more BS) w 5.125" BS. with these wheels/tires and BS, I can't fit a finger between them, maybe less than 1/2"
Anyone else got a set up that worked ? I see Chicago suggested 9" with 5.375bs on the rear.. I do like they way the do tuck up close...
Looking at Hook's setup of them RPM or TWS wheels.. they look pretty good. .but I might go with a polished or chrome setup.. or maybe the Billet Specialties Street Lites. ?
BC
Last edited by bczee; Sep 25, 2013 at 11:47 PM.
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From: Concord, CA
That is the plan, just need to get some time to get over to the Hardware store. Might also try and dimple the area around them to see if I can get them sitting flush.
BC
BC
Hook.. on the front.. so.. the 18x8 with 5"bs is what it came out to ? (w/245x40x18). I tried my front wheel/tire from the chevelle on (17x8 w/4.5bs).. seem like another 1/2" would clear well..
Yes, 5.07" BS to be exact. With zero camber (which will be fixed soon), they fit well.
On the rear.. how much space do you have between the inner fender and the tire.. ? could you measure how much rim is on the outside from the Hub ? (yeah. I know most people measure inner offset, but this way I know how much i have to work with outside and then work inward). I tried the chevelle front on the rear also.. had less than 1/2" between the inner/lip and tire.. so I am thinking 8" rim with 5" or 5 1/4" bs would work.. then add the extra 1" on the inside of the rim.
I did the same. I basically determined the forward space, which I then compared to my Centerlines, which were too far outward. For the record, my centerlines had 3.63" forward space (8.5" width), while the TSWs have 2.68" - add in the .500" spacer, and I'm at 3.18" forward space, or roughly 1/2" inward compared to the Centerlines. I was originally shooting for 3.25" forward space.
Here's a few pics.
Yes, 5.07" BS to be exact. With zero camber (which will be fixed soon), they fit well.
On the rear.. how much space do you have between the inner fender and the tire.. ? could you measure how much rim is on the outside from the Hub ? (yeah. I know most people measure inner offset, but this way I know how much i have to work with outside and then work inward). I tried the chevelle front on the rear also.. had less than 1/2" between the inner/lip and tire.. so I am thinking 8" rim with 5" or 5 1/4" bs would work.. then add the extra 1" on the inside of the rim.
I did the same. I basically determined the forward space, which I then compared to my Centerlines, which were too far outward. For the record, my centerlines had 3.63" forward space (8.5" width), while the TSWs have 2.68" - add in the .500" spacer, and I'm at 3.18" forward space, or roughly 1/2" inward compared to the Centerlines. I was originally shooting for 3.25" forward space.
Here's a few pics.
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No.. car is on the back burner due to Vacations and X-Mas shopping.. I have had a Exhaust system put on two weeks ago.. was going to post the picture and sound clip.. but have not had time. Might get to it this weekend and post.
But got to spend the $$ where needed 1st.. Standby for the update once I get time to capture the sound clip.
BC
But got to spend the $$ where needed 1st.. Standby for the update once I get time to capture the sound clip.
BC
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Brian I am running TTII's with 245x45x17's on my Camaro with no rubbing at all. If you contact DriverZ they do a lot of wheel fitments on first gens. They recommend 9.5 inch max in rear and 8's in the front. If you stick with 4.75- 5 inch BS you should be fine. I am running a similar suspension - Hotchkis springs and shocks with GW upper arms, del-alums and the Guildstrand mod.
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Those were my fronts off of the Chevelle.. 17x8 w/4.5" BS.. 245x45x17 tires.. Tje broken rim that I used was from the back of my Chevelle that broke on the Goodguys Auto-x .. it is a 17x9 w/4.5" BS. I set it up with the wood insert at 5.75" - 6.0" bs.... need to double check now that the tail pipe is in and might cause contact with the rear/inside of the tire.. will know this weekend.
Like I posted before.. I think for the fronts.. a 17 or 18 x 8" with 5" BS would be the size to work... for the Rear.. 9" or 9.5" w/5.5" - 6" BS would be in the ball park.
being custom offset/BS.. it is hard to keep the cost down.. cheapest found that I like are the RPM R505 (wheelstudio) or Billet Specialties Street Lites
BC
Like I posted before.. I think for the fronts.. a 17 or 18 x 8" with 5" BS would be the size to work... for the Rear.. 9" or 9.5" w/5.5" - 6" BS would be in the ball park.
being custom offset/BS.. it is hard to keep the cost down.. cheapest found that I like are the RPM R505 (wheelstudio) or Billet Specialties Street Lites
BC
Last edited by bczee; Dec 19, 2013 at 02:47 PM.
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Yeah..that would be great..LOL.. those are the size I was looking at, 20mm on all 4 corners.. Using the 4th Gen LS1 brakes does add some playing to the offset needed.
After the Holidays.. I am going to look at what is left in the check book has and maybe order some of those RPM R505 (silver/Polished), if they don't work out. I'll have to step up the $$ and get something that will give the custom offset..(Billet Street Lite's)
BC
After the Holidays.. I am going to look at what is left in the check book has and maybe order some of those RPM R505 (silver/Polished), if they don't work out. I'll have to step up the $$ and get something that will give the custom offset..(Billet Street Lite's)
BC
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Zero Drive Shaft Angle question ?? Got a question.. I am trying to figure out what to do about my Nova drive line angle's.. the engine is 3* down (I can adjust it, got a little room).. but the Drive shaft is Zero degree (parrallel to the ground, not important, just noting). If I recall.. the pinion is currently 0 Degree (I will shim it to get the correct angle).
I have never dealed with a drive shaft angle of Zero (lucky up till now I guess), I have dealed with them usually at a downward angle from the trans to the pinion.. I could put the pinion to 3* up to match, but on power, that angle will most likely increase due to the torque. And I forsee issue down the road (?).
Couldn't find anyone that has put any posts or web articals with Zero drive shaft angle.. Any one have any links or suggestion on what to set the pinion angle in this case ?
Thanks Guys !.... Don't need a lot of chat on this. .just the facts..
BC
ps... btw.. didn't get around to getting the sound clip of the new exhaust sound yet..
I have never dealed with a drive shaft angle of Zero (lucky up till now I guess), I have dealed with them usually at a downward angle from the trans to the pinion.. I could put the pinion to 3* up to match, but on power, that angle will most likely increase due to the torque. And I forsee issue down the road (?).
Couldn't find anyone that has put any posts or web articals with Zero drive shaft angle.. Any one have any links or suggestion on what to set the pinion angle in this case ?
Thanks Guys !.... Don't need a lot of chat on this. .just the facts..
BC
ps... btw.. didn't get around to getting the sound clip of the new exhaust sound yet..