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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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We need some nice lightweight rockers for a project. We've tried the old Yella Terra Rockers and had valve float but since have heard of an ultra light rocker that just came out. Comp Cams also has what looks like a good rocker. Whats the best high rpm rocker on the market today?
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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I've heard the cranes are fairly light. But I have no experience with them, thats just what I had heard. I think I'm going to go with the harland sharps but I'm not looking for a ultra light rocker, I also like there price
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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New Era Performance has the new lightweight Y/T rockers on for $369.00.

I'm gonna give them a try.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Have you looked at these? They have them for LS1's. http://www.schubeckracing.com/new2/i...position=70:53
Looks interesting. One other thing I'd suggest is to look at the Ferrea hollow stem valves. I have a set on my car and they are lighter by quite a bit. You can feel the difference holding them in your hand.
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Originally Posted by ArKay99
Have you looked at these? They have them for LS1's. http://www.schubeckracing.com/new2/i...position=70:53
Looks interesting. One other thing I'd suggest is to look at the Ferrea hollow stem valves. I have a set on my car and they are lighter by quite a bit. You can feel the difference holding them in your hand.
Those are some nice looking rockers! Talk about NO weight at the valve.....The valve end of the rocker is so small that it looks like it would almost break.

I didn't see an application for an LSx engine and they are expensive - $920

Which hollow stem Ferrea's do you have and did you weigh them? I was looking at those and they are still ~30 grams heavier than a stock sodium-filled LS6 valve.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ArKay99
Have you looked at these? They have them for LS1's. http://www.schubeckracing.com/new2/i...position=70:53
Looks interesting. One other thing I'd suggest is to look at the Ferrea hollow stem valves. I have a set on my car and they are lighter by quite a bit. You can feel the difference holding them in your hand.
Those are some nice looking rockers! Talk about NO weight at the valve.....The valve end of the rocker is so small that it looks like it would almost break.

I didn't see an application for an LSx engine and they are expensive - $920

Which hollow stem Ferrea's do you have and did you weigh them? I was looking at those and they are still ~30 grams heavier than a stock sodium-filled LS6 valve.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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They are $920 and come with everything you need to install. They offer them in 5/16 and 3/8" guide plates, fully adjustable and definitely the lightest ones on the market. Still debating about picking up a set.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Why are you trying to change rocker arms? I have had good luck with the stock rockers. I would recommend the Harland Sharp stock modified rocker arms.

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Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
Those are some nice looking rockers! Talk about NO weight at the valve.....The valve end of the rocker is so small that it looks like it would almost break.

I didn't see an application for an LSx engine and they are expensive - $920

Which hollow stem Ferrea's do you have and did you weigh them? I was looking at those and they are still ~30 grams heavier than a stock sodium-filled LS6 valve.
I have the Ferrea hollow stem in 2.02" and 1.60" sizes. They are much lighter than the valves that came in my AFR 205's. I didn't weigh them against the stock Z06 valves, I just did a hand held comparison and noticed a difference, so they must be lighter, by how much I can't tell.
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Originally Posted by ArKay99
I have the Ferrea hollow stem in 2.02" and 1.60" sizes. They are much lighter than the valves that came in my AFR 205's. I didn't weigh them against the stock Z06 valves, I just did a hand held comparison and noticed a difference, so they must be lighter, by how much I can't tell.
For their size the Ferrea's are lighter, but not lighter in a direct comparison.

Ferrea
F1022P-2.02 HS - 100.6 grams
F1021P-1.60 HS - 86.2 grams

Stock 02 Z06
Intake-2.00 SF - 76 grams
Exhause-1.55 SF - 63 grams

Stock 01 Z06
Intake-2.00 SS - 99 grams
Exhaust-1.55 SS - 86 grams

So the Ferrea HS are about the same as the 01 Z06 valves, but heavier than the 02 Z06 sodium filled valves.

Don't know what the AFR valves weigh, but I would guess ~120 grams for the intake and ~95 grams on the exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
They are $920 and come with everything you need to install. They offer them in 5/16 and 3/8" guide plates, fully adjustable and definitely the lightest ones on the market. Still debating about picking up a set.
Phil
For LSx applications?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:35 AM
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I know they are expensive but why not run the new Crane shaft mount quick lift rocker? I think they are the best rocker available now.
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Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
For LSx applications?
Yes for LSx applications.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Yes for LSx applications.
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Very cool, let us know how they work out!
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Not sure I like the composite roller idea, or did I mis-read their advertisement.
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Not sure I like the composite roller idea, or did I mis-read their advertisement.
It's a composite non-roller bearing. The shaft is separated by an oil film. It's a sound design that works well, but requires milling of the rocker bosses to install.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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That make mores sense and is what I figured they meant, but their web site has a very poor explanation, at least I thought it wasn't very good.

Are they adjustable?

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Originally Posted by vettenuts
That makes mores sense and is what I figured they meant, but their web site has a very poor explanation, at least I thought it wasn't very good.

Are they adjustable?
Yes, the adjusting nut is on top of the pushrod side of the rocker. They look very heavy duty and very heavy, but the spring pressure's they were designed for that shouldn't be a big deal.
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