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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Anyone know how much HP a single four inch exhaust will support? Thanks, Mike
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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exhaust doesnt really "support" hp. it all depends what kind of setup you have. while it may be beneficial to one, it might to do no good on another setup.

for FI....4" is usually what the guys use in the 1000hp range. NA.... i think thats the biggest youll ever need
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what are your goals and plans?
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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A freakin tom of HP! Way more than all but a few people can make with an LS1.
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Off topic but that b4cu quote is ******* awesome! That's for real public ownage...
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4" pipe will suport 656hp with zero loss. 115cfm per square inch cross sectional area, 2.2hp per CFM.

I have a 4" I pipe with a cutout, then a 3" reducer. Pics/writeup of it in the sig link.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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Thanks for the input. I was hoping someone would know some formulas to figure that out. TheBlurLS1 if your bored how about 5"? I think 656 will be over what I will be making but, I didn't think the Flowmaster 3" kit I have would do it, I was thinking Flowmaster said either 350 or 450 HP. I am hoping to be in the 500-550 HP range. Thanks again, Mike
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honestly a 3.5" is good for apx 550hp and you wont make enough power to even consider a 5" let alone tring to make it fit. Its already super tight with a 4"
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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haha, plenty of ppl are getting 800whp out of 3" single exhaust.....
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haha, plenty of ppl are getting 800whp out of 3" single exhaust.....
yeah, and there exhaust is holding them back too
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
I have a 4" I pipe with a cutout, then a 3" reducer. Pics/writeup of it in the sig link.
I did that with a 3.5" I-Pipe and a dual 3" into a 3.5" flowmaster Y merge. That pipe seemed huge enough.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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This is for a BBC, the car is just tube frame and a shell at this point, I will be fabricating a floor, so space isn't an issue. Thanks again
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
4" pipe will suport 656hp with zero loss. 115cfm per square inch cross sectional area, 2.2hp per CFM.
Is that formula correct, here's what I get with dual 2.5":

Area = 3.14 x r x r
= 3.14 x 1.25 x 1.25
= 4.9 x 2 (dual pipes)
= 9.8125 sq in

From your formula above:

CFM = 115 cfm per sq in
= 115 x 9.8 (from the above area)
= 1127 cfm

hp = 2.2 hp per cfm
= 2.2 x 1127 (from the above cfm)
= 2479.4 hp

Which is obviously wrong...am I messing up my math?
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woops nevermind I realize you have to divide by 2.2 in the final step...it's 2.2 cfm per hp not 2.2 hp per cfm...so here are the hp support numbers I get:

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single 3"  = 369 hp
single 4"  = 656 hp
dual 2.5"  = 512 hp
dual 3"    = 738 hp

Is this fwhp or rwhp?
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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so my 3" is only good for 369hp? the dyno must have been wrong when it says 900hp... :gotme:
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo LS1 SS
so my 3" is only good for 369hp? the dyno must have been wrong when it says 900hp... :gotme:
it will only support 369hp efficiently, if your making that much power through a single 3" exhaust i bet your leaving quite a bit on the table
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Turbo LS1 SS - what is your exhaust set up? to me it seems like a big restriction for you
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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o i know its a HUUGE restiction....im actually in the process of making an exhaust. for power ill use the cutout. havent decided whether to use 3.5 or 4". im stepping it off the 3" from the downpipe after about 2'. then ill prolly step it back down to my magnaflow for easy driving. i made teh 750rwhp with the 3" cutout open. i was exagerating a little bit. with it closed, i can feel the backpressure like u wouldnt believe
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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oh ok, im not saying that you cant make that kind of power through a 3" but it just wouldnt be smart

As far as your exhaust i would do a 4" i pipe with a 4" cut out and then step it down to a 3 inch and go though your Magnaflow... You should check out TheBlurrLS1's exhaust to give you some ideas.... How big is your down pipe?
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You can make 10000hp through a 2" pipe, but you could be making more with larger.

If you're pipe isn't rated for zero loss at whatever you're making, don't sweat it, you're probably not loosing much. Flow rate is determined by cross sectional area and differential pressure. Final pressure is always 14.7, because your exhaust pipe is opening into atmosphere.

To move the exhaust gas out at a certain rate, through a given area, you need a certain pressure differential. If you make more power, you'll have to increase that pressure differential in order to move the same amount of exhaust per the same amount of pipe. Increasing that pressure differential costs you horsepower, but not very much in most cases.
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