F Body intercooled twin turbo system - preliminary pricing $5495 inc free delvery

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Mar 5, 2007 | 07:38 PM

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I very much doubt that the APS TT system would fit your 95 firebird (3rd generation F body) as the APS TT system is designed for the 98 to 02 model F body, 4th generation F body.

Peter

Third gens are the 82-92 camaros, 95 is still considered 4th gen, just fyi.

Mar 5, 2007 | 07:41 PM

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so this is a gravity drain back to the oilpan
or back to a holding tank with a pump

Correct, gravity drain back to the oil pan.

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and how about turbo size

From the APS web site,

The highly specialized turbochargers are based upon custom Mitsubishi gasoline spec turbochargers with an Inconel 713C turbine wheel, liquid cooled bearing housing (50 lbs per minute mass air flow @ 18 PSI), APS single entry .84 A/R turbine housings with external waste gate port/provision and APS designed and manufactured .65 A/R compressor housing.

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I am building a 403 ci LS2 with afr 225 heads
how large of a turbo will fit with this kit

The turbos as described above will support around 1000 HP and will be awesome on a 403 cube engine.

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Mar 5, 2007 | 07:45 PM

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93 octane, or "premium". And what would be the next RWHP level for a stock motor on 93 octane with a methanol injection setup?

Around 550 whp on a bone stock engine and you would gain another 30 to 40 whp with meth injection though that would be about the absolute durability limit for a stock engine imo.

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Mar 5, 2007 | 07:58 PM

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Third gens are the 82-92 camaros, 95 is still considered 4th gen, just fyi.

Thanks for that info. I'm told that there are a good numer of changes between 98/02 model vs the pre 98 model F body. In other words, the APS system should fit the 98 to 02 model like a glove and there may or maynot be issues with fitment to pre 98 F bodies.

Thanks,

Peter

Mar 5, 2007 | 07:59 PM

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I very much doubt that the APS TT system would fit your 95 firebird (3rd generation F body) as the APS TT system is designed for the 98 to 02 model F body, 4th generation F body.

Peter

the 4th gen is 1993 to 2002
it includes both LS1 and LT1

Mar 5, 2007 | 09:37 PM

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wow..... I cant wait to see how this is going to play out in the F-body market, theres just TONS of guys who are going to jump all over this kit....

Mar 5, 2007 | 09:56 PM

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Peter, I think you'd be better off editing your FIRST post... For people don't read threads

To answer some of the people's questions in here, I'm thinking we're going to have to wait for the kit to be final and there being real numbers given to us from APS (with info on the test car - [other mods]).

But, I am interested to know if there's a possibility to upgrade the size of the compressor wheel (larger compressor wheel -> more flow) like you can do to the Incon kits... BUT! I'm not expecting you to give us an answer, for this kit is not final...

Mar 6, 2007 | 08:58 AM

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Awesome to hear that you're pleased with the C6 TT system and by all means email me when you have the system up and running, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the performance gains.

Thanks,

Peter

Will do.

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Mar 6, 2007 | 09:03 AM

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Ok glad to hear can keep my air conditioning. Also glad to hear about gravity feed since pumps are extra stuff and complicate things a bit. If the system is gravity feed then the turbos must be mounted higher than the gto system which uses a pump.
They look pretty low.So with higher turbo mounting would think ground clearance from the turbos would be good and yes understand you can still get low from the exhaust but again not overly worried would go back to stock height if necessary not a big deal to swap out springs.
My questions have pretty much all been answered now thanks Peter.

Mar 6, 2007 | 02:25 PM

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Does APS have parts for their kits that people can buy? I am wondering because if you guys make these in batches and sell them all do you have any parts inventory?

For example if an intake pipe was smashed during shipping, would a guy be able to buy this piece?

Mar 6, 2007 | 03:20 PM

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This is great news. I hope these kits are still arround or being made when I have the time and money to build the car the way I want.

Mar 6, 2007 | 04:09 PM

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Beautiful...hopefully this will be a hit and continue production until I reach this point for the T/A. Nice work!

Jason

Mar 6, 2007 | 04:26 PM

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the 4th gen is 1993 to 2002
it includes both LS1 and LT1

Ok, Thanks very much for your reply. I should just clarify that the APS TT system is designed for 98-02 model LS1 powered F body cars. Some guys may choose to fit the TT sysytem to earlier model F body cars though I can't comment if the TT system will be an ideal fit or not.

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Mar 6, 2007 | 04:32 PM

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wow..... I cant wait to see how this is going to play out in the F-body market, theres just TONS of guys who are going to jump all over this kit....

I'm very positive that the APS TT system will be ideal for guys wanting around 550 whp on stock LS1 engines and up to 850 whp on built engines. APS have priced the F body TT system very keenly to ensure economical production volumes which allows APS to sell a very high quality product at a affordable price.

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Mar 6, 2007 | 04:38 PM

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But, I am interested to know if there's a possibility to upgrade the size of the compressor wheel (larger compressor wheel -> more flow) like you can do to the Incon kits... BUT! I'm not expecting you to give us an answer, for this kit is not final...

There are a number of companies in the US who can fit high flow comp wheels to the Mitsubishi TDO6 turbocharger though I very much doubt that average guy will need larger comp flow. The Comp wheel on the APS F body turbocharger system as supplied is as large in terms of mass air flow as the GT3076R comp wheel.

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Mar 6, 2007 | 04:46 PM

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Correct, The turbos are mounted higher in the F body system so no oil return pump is required.On the GTO the turbos are higher than the engine oil pan and gearbox so ground clearance is never an issue in any event.

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So with higher turbo mounting would think ground clearance from the turbos would be good and yes understand you can still get low from the exhaust but again not overly worried would go back to stock height if necessary not a big deal to swap out springs.

Just to clarify this point, the turbo clearance will never be a proplem as with all F bodies the left hand side exhaust Y pipe is always the main issue (lowest point) in terms of ground clearance.

Peter

Mar 6, 2007 | 04:48 PM

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Does APS have parts for their kits that people can buy? I am wondering because if you guys make these in batches and sell them all do you have any parts inventory?

We carry a good deal of inventory in stock though most guys will buy small bits and pieces in the US as it's cheaper and quicker to obtain.

Peter

Mar 6, 2007 | 04:50 PM

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This is great news. I hope these kits are still arround or being made when I have the time and money to build the car the way I want.

The F body TT system will be produced for as long as there's sufficient customer demand.

Peter

Mar 6, 2007 | 07:06 PM

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Peter - Have you given any thought to making a kit for the 1993-1997 LT1 F-bodys?

The 98-02 F-body turbo kit will not work with the 92-97 at all.