Cubic Inch / Nitrous ratio...
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Originally Posted by VINCE
It's no fun if you are spinning while a car with half your horsepower is walking away..
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
Originally Posted by KingCrapBox
More cubes = more power.
More N20 = more power.
More cubes + More N20 = Double the fun.
More N20 = more power.
More cubes + More N20 = Double the fun.
a large cube na motor with 250 will make as much, possable less then my 346 with 250
and it will take it for less time do to the pistions being thin to make light weight n2o parts and chances are good you burn one up faster on the na motor
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
i disagree.
a large cube na motor with 250 will make as much, possable less then my 346 with 250
and it will take it for less time do to the pistions being thin to make light weight n2o parts and chances are good you burn one up faster on the na motor
a large cube na motor with 250 will make as much, possable less then my 346 with 250
and it will take it for less time do to the pistions being thin to make light weight n2o parts and chances are good you burn one up faster on the na motor
Which two cars are the two fastest N20 cars in the world? Shannon Jenkins and Mike Castanella. Both have BIG Gene Fulton 5.0" bore-space engines with multiple foggers and plates.
A bigger engine, when compared to a smaller engine, will injest more nitrous. Therefore, it will make more HP. Do you really not understand this?
Originally Posted by KingCrapBox
You're serious aren't you?
Which two cars are the two fastest N20 cars in the world? Shannon Jenkins and Mike Castanella. Both have BIG Gene Fulton 5.0" bore-space engines with multiple foggers and plates.
A bigger engine, when compared to a smaller engine, will injest more nitrous. Therefore, it will make more HP. Do you really not understand this?
Which two cars are the two fastest N20 cars in the world? Shannon Jenkins and Mike Castanella. Both have BIG Gene Fulton 5.0" bore-space engines with multiple foggers and plates.
A bigger engine, when compared to a smaller engine, will injest more nitrous. Therefore, it will make more HP. Do you really not understand this?
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
the proper built motor will make more power. put the wrong parts in it, and it wont
put a **** N2O cam and parts that dont work well together and it will not use the spray effecently.
have someone that knows N2O do a motor, and yes the bigger cube will make more power
put a **** N2O cam and parts that dont work well together and it will not use the spray effecently.
have someone that knows N2O do a motor, and yes the bigger cube will make more power
Noyzee we still have ATVRacers old NA cam (242/242 on a 112) in his car. Still havent tried a nitrous cam like I was talking to you abot but how much do you think can really be left in it?
10.0s at 3550, 150 dry shot and its an 11.3 heads/cam motor. It SHOULD still have a good bt more left in it
10.0s at 3550, 150 dry shot and its an 11.3 heads/cam motor. It SHOULD still have a good bt more left in it
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
who knows, it might be all done, it might have more. you may loose power with a cam. try it and find out.
but if it all stock motor, the pistions and rods are nice and light, so it makes good power, now tho a heavey rod, ans pistion in the car, or a N2O rod/pistion, and a 150 shot, and it will slow down. the longgevity is there with a built motor, but you sacrifies a little power.
im just stating what i have seen, ive seen 427,s make almost 550 to the wheels, then hit it with a 200 shot, and it made 120 at the wheels of a 200 shot. it didnt use the spray the right way, and it lost it.
some motors will react different, but ive seen 350 rwhp 346's make 300 on a 250 shot.
hell, my car with a nitros tune up made 315 at the wheels, and i hit it with 300 and it made 703 at the wheels i turned it down to 250 and it was still making about 650-660
I accualy had a guy that thought i was hitting it harder, so i pulled the jets to prove it to him.
but if it all stock motor, the pistions and rods are nice and light, so it makes good power, now tho a heavey rod, ans pistion in the car, or a N2O rod/pistion, and a 150 shot, and it will slow down. the longgevity is there with a built motor, but you sacrifies a little power.
im just stating what i have seen, ive seen 427,s make almost 550 to the wheels, then hit it with a 200 shot, and it made 120 at the wheels of a 200 shot. it didnt use the spray the right way, and it lost it.
some motors will react different, but ive seen 350 rwhp 346's make 300 on a 250 shot.
hell, my car with a nitros tune up made 315 at the wheels, and i hit it with 300 and it made 703 at the wheels i turned it down to 250 and it was still making about 650-660
I accualy had a guy that thought i was hitting it harder, so i pulled the jets to prove it to him.
Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Has anyone tried alcohol/nitrous or am I going to be the first?
Phil
Phil
Let us know how it goes.Noyzee..... You guys going to make it down on the 23rd for the shootout?
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Its been done before Phil, but they may not be on here or post about it.
Cant talk Wayne into trying it with his.
How quickly you think the alcohol will kill the stock fuel lines...
Cant talk Wayne into trying it with his.
How quickly you think the alcohol will kill the stock fuel lines...
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
i think we will be going with Garies car, im not sure im going to make it. i have a race on the 16th here in Mass, and its hard this time of year to get time off. i do Air conditioning.
im going to try like hell tho.
im going to try like hell tho.
Phil, I like the idea of running methanol with your nitrous system. I'm guessing you were talking about using it on a stand-alone fuel system. I would like more info on this idea as well.
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It will be directly related to flow. Simply put on a motor you get to a point where no more nitrous and fuel can be ingested. On the dyno this is often seen as a "fog" over the top of the carb as some of the mix is "reverted" out the top.
Alos when you use alcohol, you have to account for needing more alcohol than gasoline. Her eis a good thread which discusses the fact you need about 10% more port size for alcohol vs gasoline.
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1345
When you reach sonic choke on a motor, and you thumb the button you might be spraying a 600 shot and only see a 100HP gain. At that point you'll need more CSA on the intake side to see gain.
Alos when you use alcohol, you have to account for needing more alcohol than gasoline. Her eis a good thread which discusses the fact you need about 10% more port size for alcohol vs gasoline.
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1345
When you reach sonic choke on a motor, and you thumb the button you might be spraying a 600 shot and only see a 100HP gain. At that point you'll need more CSA on the intake side to see gain.
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a friend of mine ran limited street a couple years ago...377 sbc with conventional heads and a single stage fogger went 176mph @ 3100lbs i think. he was to the point of not being able to get the motor to take any more nitrous. bigger nitrous jet and it wouldnt go any faster. he took the motor to 8900rpm.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Has anyone tried alcohol/nitrous or am I going to be the first?
Phil
Phil
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Originally Posted by Ben R
You're serious aren't you?
Which two cars are the two fastest N20 cars in the world? Shannon Jenkins and Mike Castanella. Both have BIG Gene Fulton 5.0" bore-space engines with multiple foggers and plates.
A bigger engine, when compared to a smaller engine, will injest more nitrous. Therefore, it will make more HP. Do you really not understand this?
Which two cars are the two fastest N20 cars in the world? Shannon Jenkins and Mike Castanella. Both have BIG Gene Fulton 5.0" bore-space engines with multiple foggers and plates.
A bigger engine, when compared to a smaller engine, will injest more nitrous. Therefore, it will make more HP. Do you really not understand this?
There are no plates on the cars. And they have less systems on them than most people think.
