Advanced Engineering Tech For the more hardcore LS1TECH residents

One + inch of tire diameter = ratio?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 02:57 PM
  #1  
Lasershop's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 572
Likes: 2
From: Gold Country California
Default One + inch of tire diameter = ratio?

Do CAD all day. Cant think. How much would one inch additional tire diameter affect gear ratio? Better yet, a formula to figure it out. Going from 18's to 20's.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:06 PM
  #2  
02 Camaro SS's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,832
Likes: 0
From: Rockland County, NY
Default

You could use this http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles...ators/index.php
But if you wanted to calculate it yourself you would have to first find the circumference of the tire.
C = pi*diameter

since you want your final answer to be in mph, you could convert that into miles
Circumference*(1 ft/12")*(1 mile/5280 ft) = miles/tire revolution

So to find what speed you would be doing at a given rpm you would have to do
Engine RPM * (transmission output/transmission input) * (rear output/rear input) *(tire circumference/rear output)*(60min/1 hour) = speed in mph
Sorry if that got kind of confusing
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:39 PM
  #3  
Lasershop's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 572
Likes: 2
From: Gold Country California
Default

Originally Posted by 02 Camaro SS
You could use this http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles...ators/index.php
But if you wanted to calculate it yourself you would have to first find the circumference of the tire.
C = pi*diameter

since you want your final answer to be in mph, you could convert that into miles
Circumference*(1 ft/12")*(1 mile/5280 ft) = miles/tire revolution

So to find what speed you would be doing at a given rpm you would have to do
Engine RPM * (transmission output/transmission input) * (rear output/rear input) *(tire circumference/rear output)*(60min/1 hour) = speed in mph
Sorry if that got kind of confusing
Thats was good..... But I need to find out how it will affect rear gear ratio.
Example: 26 inch tires with a 4:10 ratio. New tires 28" I know its still a 4:10 no matter what. I really wanted 3:90's based on 26" tires, but I knew I would go to a larger diameter tire. Sorry if that got kind of confusing. Just wondering if I was closer to my goal.
26" circumference = 81.6814.
28" circumference = 87.9646.
So I can travel 6.2832 inches more per rev with the larger (20" rims) tire (at the same ratio).
Looks like I just need to multiply the circumference by the ratio both ways and just compare the distance per rev. Does that sound right?
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:55 PM
  #4  
Phoenix 5.7's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,809
Likes: 0
From: Prairie de Femme, LA
Default

HP Tuners has a way to do it. if you give me the exact tire size change(either in inches or 275/40/17 form) and gear ratio, i should be able to do it. its used to adjust the speedometer, but i should be able to figure out for you
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 06:04 PM
  #5  
dug's Avatar
dug
Banned
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,721
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix
Default

Its just a ratio. 26/28 * 4.10's = 3.81

going from a 26" tall tire to a 28" tall tires lowers the axle ratio to 3.81.

28/26 * 4.10's = 4.42

Thats the axle ratio you need to counteract the taller tires.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 06:19 PM
  #6  
Lasershop's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 572
Likes: 2
From: Gold Country California
Default

Originally Posted by dug
Its just a ratio. 26/28 * 4.10's = 3.81

going from a 26" tall tire to a 28" tall tires lowers the axle ratio to 3.81.

28/26 * 4.10's = 4.42

Thats the axle ratio you need to counteract the taller tires.
Thanks. That is good news to me. I felt that 4:10's were a bit much but I knew I would have to compensate for the larger diameter. The 3:81 sounds a lot more where I wanted to be with a built A4 and a Yank SS3600.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 11:16 PM
  #7  
Old SStroker's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 3
From: Upstate NY
Default

Originally Posted by Lasershop
Thats was good..... But I need to find out how it will affect rear gear ratio.
Example: 26 inch tires with a 4:10 ratio. New tires 28" I know its still a 4:10 no matter what. I really wanted 3:90's based on 26" tires, but I knew I would go to a larger diameter tire. Sorry if that got kind of confusing. Just wondering if I was closer to my goal.
26" circumference = 81.6814.
28" circumference = 87.9646.
So I can travel 6.2832 inches more per rev with the larger (20" rims) tire (at the same ratio).
Looks like I just need to multiply the circumference by the ratio both ways and just compare the distance per rev. Does that sound right?
Don't make this difficult. It's not.

You could just multiply the inverse ratio of the tire diameters times the gear ratio to get the new "effective" ratio.

eg. 26/28 x 4.10 = 3.81

Because circumference is directly proportional to diameter (via PI), all that stuff drops out when you do the math.

Of course, you could go to TireRack website, check the specs for the actual tires you are going to use, and compare the revs per mile using the same formula.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:02 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE