Tail Light / Brake Light Kill Switch
07-28-2009, 08:07 PM
#1
Tail Light / Brake Light Kill Switch I know this has been discussed a little before, although not really in depth for a electrical laymen such as myself.
First off the car is a 2002 WS.6. I'm wanting to wire up a tail light and a brake light kill switch. I have a Chilton manual which isn't as good as some manuals but is better than nothing. I've been looking over the External Lighting wire diagram and I think I have it figured out.
Ok, here is what I'm thinking.
-The complete tail light kill could be achieved by running the wires that are in the blue circle and ground them using the ground in the red circle. Then to kill the lights the circuit would be broken near the red circle ground. Does that sound about right?
-The brake light kill could be achieved by breaking the circuit on either the green, purple or pink highlighted wire. It looks to me like I wouldn't want to break the circuit on the pink highlighted wire because my 3rd brake light would still be operational. So it looks to me like the green or the purple highlighted wire would be the way to go. Does it matter which one?
Another question I have is should I use a relay or not? I know some electrical systems use them and some don't. I'm not really sure what would constitute the requirement of a relay.
First off the car is a 2002 WS.6. I'm wanting to wire up a tail light and a brake light kill switch. I have a Chilton manual which isn't as good as some manuals but is better than nothing. I've been looking over the External Lighting wire diagram and I think I have it figured out.
Ok, here is what I'm thinking.
-The complete tail light kill could be achieved by running the wires that are in the blue circle and ground them using the ground in the red circle. Then to kill the lights the circuit would be broken near the red circle ground. Does that sound about right?
-The brake light kill could be achieved by breaking the circuit on either the green, purple or pink highlighted wire. It looks to me like I wouldn't want to break the circuit on the pink highlighted wire because my 3rd brake light would still be operational. So it looks to me like the green or the purple highlighted wire would be the way to go. Does it matter which one?
Another question I have is should I use a relay or not? I know some electrical systems use them and some don't. I'm not really sure what would constitute the requirement of a relay.
07-28-2009, 09:41 PM
#2
That sounds about right, and I'm not even going to ask why you need to disable your break lights because I'm sure it's not legal.
Unless you're looking to sandbag a race by riding the brakes a little and don't want your competition to know.... if that's the case, that's pretty smart.
Unless you're looking to sandbag a race by riding the brakes a little and don't want your competition to know.... if that's the case, that's pretty smart.
07-28-2009, 09:49 PM
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ever pass by a cop when his speed gun is out and there is a car next to you. you can slow down without the cop seeing you hit the brakes and might blame the other guy lol
07-28-2009, 09:54 PM
#5
I am thinking if your trying to out run the cops at night its nice to have the abilty to turn off your taillights so they cant see you ahead of them.
On the flip side....if you do get caught thats a FELONY and will kind of **** up the rest of your night.
On the flip side....if you do get caught thats a FELONY and will kind of **** up the rest of your night.
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07-29-2009, 01:11 AM
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That's some good information to have, knowing that running from the cops without your lights on is a felony. Although I thought that running from the cops at all was a felony.
07-29-2009, 01:44 AM
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Yea I was also thinking about doing this for the simple fact that I occasionally enguage in late night runs in uh.... Mexico 
and this would come in handy on those long, dark, straight country roads in mexico when the Po shows up... Especially since they dont take kindly to street racing in Calif uh... er... I mean mexico 
and this would come in handy on those long, dark, straight country roads in mexico when the Po shows up... Especially since they dont take kindly to street racing in Calif uh... er... I mean mexico 
07-29-2009, 02:43 AM
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That's basically the two main reasons for this mod. Plus I'm sure there are some other pros to having this ability that I haven't thought up yet.
I wouldn't use this to run from the cops, if I ever did use this in a law enforcement situation it would be to mislead. If **** ever hit the fan bad enough that I had to run, a felony would probably be the least of my worries.
That's some good information to have, knowing that running from the cops without your lights on is a felony. Although I thought that running from the cops at all was a felony.
I wouldn't use this to run from the cops, if I ever did use this in a law enforcement situation it would be to mislead. If **** ever hit the fan bad enough that I had to run, a felony would probably be the least of my worries.
That's some good information to have, knowing that running from the cops without your lights on is a felony. Although I thought that running from the cops at all was a felony.
07-29-2009, 09:04 AM
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An "easy" way from an electrical standpoint would be to put a switch in the main ground wire connecting the tails to the chassis. Open the switch opens the ground, which in turn opens the circuit so all the tails go completely dark.
If your intent is to keep the running lights on but no brake lights, then what KILLER-LS1 said is easy too, but not quite what he said. A simple switch in line with the brake light switch will disable brake lights.
However, DON'T ground any hot lines. You'll just blow fuses that way. Sure your lights will be off but you won't be able to turn the lights back on
If your intent is to keep the running lights on but no brake lights, then what KILLER-LS1 said is easy too, but not quite what he said. A simple switch in line with the brake light switch will disable brake lights.
However, DON'T ground any hot lines. You'll just blow fuses that way. Sure your lights will be off but you won't be able to turn the lights back on
07-29-2009, 09:26 AM
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Yea I was also thinking about doing this for the simple fact that I occasionally enguage in late night runs in uh.... Mexico and this would come in handy on those long, dark, straight country roads in mexico when the Po shows up... Especially since they dont take kindly to street racing in Calif uh... er... I mean mexico
and this would come in handy on those long, dark, straight country roads in mexico when the Po shows up... Especially since they dont take kindly to street racing in Calif uh... er... I mean mexico
07-29-2009, 12:32 PM
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I had this switch to my 87 daytona shelby Z... it was easy to do, i did just like SparkyJJO said with the tail lights ground, but yeah that wont knock out the 3rd brakelight on the spoiler.
I basically had it so people/cops had a hard time following me, since i did all kinds of stupid things in high school lol.
Its also VERY good for A$$HOLES on the highway who love to ride your a$$ for no reason... just flip the switch and slowly hit the brakes, but watch very close in your mirror b/c the look on their faces when they realize it is GREAT!
I basically had it so people/cops had a hard time following me, since i did all kinds of stupid things in high school lol.
Its also VERY good for A$$HOLES on the highway who love to ride your a$$ for no reason... just flip the switch and slowly hit the brakes, but watch very close in your mirror b/c the look on their faces when they realize it is GREAT!
07-29-2009, 02:22 PM
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An "easy" way from an electrical standpoint would be to put a switch in the main ground wire connecting the tails to the chassis. Open the switch opens the ground, which in turn opens the circuit so all the tails go completely dark.
If your intent is to keep the running lights on but no brake lights, then what KILLER-LS1 said is easy too, but not quite what he said. A simple switch in line with the brake light switch will disable brake lights.
However, DON'T ground any hot lines. You'll just blow fuses that way. Sure your lights will be off but you won't be able to turn the lights back on
If your intent is to keep the running lights on but no brake lights, then what KILLER-LS1 said is easy too, but not quite what he said. A simple switch in line with the brake light switch will disable brake lights.
However, DON'T ground any hot lines. You'll just blow fuses that way. Sure your lights will be off but you won't be able to turn the lights back on