3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update*
3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* Hi guys,
I'm a Zaino guy, but Z5 just isn't covering the swirl marks and blemishes I'm trying to cover up.
What is the right 3M product I need, (number) and what do you recommend as far as application? i.e do I apply it up and down and back and forth like Zaino, or in cirlces? And, can I use this in combination with Z5 and Z2 without having to reaply Z1?
Thanks for all your help. I just have some nasty swirl marks to hide.
Jon
<small>[ April 21, 2003, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: JonSS ]</small>
I'm a Zaino guy, but Z5 just isn't covering the swirl marks and blemishes I'm trying to cover up.
What is the right 3M product I need, (number) and what do you recommend as far as application? i.e do I apply it up and down and back and forth like Zaino, or in cirlces? And, can I use this in combination with Z5 and Z2 without having to reaply Z1?
Thanks for all your help. I just have some nasty swirl marks to hide.
Jon
<small>[ April 21, 2003, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: JonSS ]</small>
Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* 39009 for dark cars
39109 for light cars
I would not use the circle motion. It can induce more swirls. Use front to back and left to right.
If you have bad swirls I would step up the polish a bit, I suggest 3M Finesse It-II, part number: 39003. You don't want to spend all day polishing but you don't want to use too harsh of a product, FI-II is your best bet. Doesn't leave hazing or clouding either.
If you use any of these polishes they are abrasive and will strip your Zaino. Best bet is to strip everything, get the car perfect then re-layer your Zaino.
Let me know if you need more advice.
39109 for light cars
I would not use the circle motion. It can induce more swirls. Use front to back and left to right.
If you have bad swirls I would step up the polish a bit, I suggest 3M Finesse It-II, part number: 39003. You don't want to spend all day polishing but you don't want to use too harsh of a product, FI-II is your best bet. Doesn't leave hazing or clouding either.
If you use any of these polishes they are abrasive and will strip your Zaino. Best bet is to strip everything, get the car perfect then re-layer your Zaino.
Let me know if you need more advice.
Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* Thanks Joe. My car is red, so i would imagine the dark is what I need (39009)
I'll try the 3M polish Finesse It-II. That can be applied by hand, right? I imagine the same up and down, and back and forth motion.
Thanks for your help.
Jon
I'll try the 3M polish Finesse It-II. That can be applied by hand, right? I imagine the same up and down, and back and forth motion.
Thanks for your help.
Jon
Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* I have a red SS myself.
The dust is the only difference from the light/dark SMR bottles. One is darker and one is lighter, I buy whatever is in stock. Just don't leave the residue on your car and no one will know which you used.
The FI-II can be used by hand. If your polishing by hand, just use one motion (front/back or left/right). I thought you were using a random orbitial polisher.
The dust is the only difference from the light/dark SMR bottles. One is darker and one is lighter, I buy whatever is in stock. Just don't leave the residue on your car and no one will know which you used.
The FI-II can be used by hand. If your polishing by hand, just use one motion (front/back or left/right). I thought you were using a random orbitial polisher.
Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* No orbital polisher here, just my own elbow grease. I'm going to give the 3M stuff a shot, if that doesn't work, then it's off to the body shop for me, or just living with it.
Thanks Joe.
<img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Jon
<small>[ April 17, 2003, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: JonSS ]</small>
Thanks Joe.
<img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Jon
<small>[ April 17, 2003, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: JonSS ]</small>
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Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* Used the 3M swirl remover this weekend for Light cars, and for anyone who hasn't tried this stuff, and wants too, I highly recomend it! It realy did the job, and with just a little bit of elbow grease.
Put down one coat of Zaino (Z5) and it looks better than new. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Sweet stuff, and well worth the $$ for the product.
Jon
Put down one coat of Zaino (Z5) and it looks better than new. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Sweet stuff, and well worth the $$ for the product.
Jon
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Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* The 3M Swirl Mark Remover and possibly the Fine Cut Rubbing Compound should work well for you. I use my Porter-Cable Random orbital buffer/polisher with it and get excellent results. Then wash residue off with Dawn dish washing soap and start the Zaino process over again. Z5 work great for swirl marks and fine scratches but if you're applying it with the wrong type of towel, you could be adding additional swirls during the application.
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Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2K2CamaroSS:
<strong> how much is this stuff and where can you find it?? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're asking about the Zaino or the 3M stuff?
<strong> how much is this stuff and where can you find it?? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're asking about the Zaino or the 3M stuff?
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Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* I use the 3M swirl mark remover on my car...takes out the big ugly swirls, and the scratches the car gets from being at the shop etc...
Best way to do it is w/a buffer, hand application works well too, but takes many more coats and elbow grease to get the marks to disappear..
After they are gone, I follow up w/Z5... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Best way to do it is w/a buffer, hand application works well too, but takes many more coats and elbow grease to get the marks to disappear..
After they are gone, I follow up w/Z5... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong>After they are gone, I follow up w/Z5... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I assume you are using ZFX, or else you would have to start with Z1 before the Z5, since the 3M swirl remover strips the Zaino off
<strong>After they are gone, I follow up w/Z5... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I assume you are using ZFX, or else you would have to start with Z1 before the Z5, since the 3M swirl remover strips the Zaino off
Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2K2CamaroSS:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong>After they are gone, I follow up w/Z5... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I assume you are using ZFX, or else you would have to start with Z1 before the Z5, since the 3M swirl remover strips the Zaino off </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup, that's what I did. Used z1 after the swirl remover, then z5. Jeez, so technical
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong>After they are gone, I follow up w/Z5... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I assume you are using ZFX, or else you would have to start with Z1 before the Z5, since the 3M swirl remover strips the Zaino off </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup, that's what I did. Used z1 after the swirl remover, then z5. Jeez, so technical
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Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* So what did you do with the Zaino that was on the car before you used the 3M? Did you have to "remove" it somehow... or did you just use the 3M swirl remover over it?
Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* If the scratches are fine enough, I will also vouch for 3M Finesse-It II. It's a very mild polish. I found that the more you work at it, the better the results are. Just keep going over the same spot until you're happy.
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Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* 3M makes it and it is called hand glaze it comes in a clear bottle and is brown in color. Just rub it in like wax and wipe it off right after with a cotton rag.
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Re: 3M Swirl Remover Guys Inside *update* The best stuff out there in my opinion is 3M's "Liquid Polish". Been using it by hand on my vehicles since the laqquer days. The part # is 5939 and comes in a half-gallon jug.....will last about 2-3 years. Get a squeeze applicator bottle, put some in and your good to go. Apply just like any other hand-rubbing substance, keep rubbing in til you get the desired results. Why I like it? No water or oils that evaporate and leave you embarasssed thinking you rubbed all your scratches out.It also doesn't leave a greasy film like many glazes. It's basically a fine polish you use by hand. May have to get it at your local body shop jobber though, you won't find this at Walmart.