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TallgeeseIV Jun 12, 2014 06:42 PM

Full LED's and Sequential Tail Lights -Which Flasher?
 
I've read 8 or so antique threads now, and over the past 5 years, it seems there's still no consensus on what flasher to use.

I currently have front LED turn signals, and standard bulbs in the rear, with sequential tail lights and Tridon EL12 flashers.

The EL12's are a bit too fast for my sequentials, and I know they won't work once I replace the rears with LED's as well.

I'm NOT willing to give up the clicking sound, I really pay attention to that.

So, has anyone found a proper No Load flasher which also has a slow enough rate for sequentials AND has sound?

Fst_Byrd Jun 18, 2014 06:53 PM

Yes I did that swap a out 2 years ago and swapped only the turn signal flasher(there's one for signals and flashers). I used the EL12 and it works great and still has sound.

TallgeeseIV Jun 18, 2014 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Fst_Byrd (Post 18276705)
Yes I did that swap a out 2 years ago and swapped only the turn signal flasher(there's one for signals and flashers). I used the EL12 and it works great and still has sound.

Uh huh... Well thank you, you are the only one who replied, but like I said, "The EL12's are a bit too fast for my sequentials, and I know they won't work once I replace the rears with LED's as well." ...

contraststriker Jun 19, 2014 08:16 PM

In case no one else replies, this is the one I use but NO, it does not have sound. I know that is one of your requirements but if all else fails...

CF12ANL-01 LED Bulb Electronic Flasher

TallgeeseIV Jun 19, 2014 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by contraststriker (Post 18278680)
In case no one else replies, this is the one I use but NO, it does not have sound. I know that is one of your requirements but if all else fails...

CF12ANL-01 LED Bulb Electronic Flasher

Ah, thanks. I'm actually reconsidering the sound requirement. I changed my gauge cluster to LED's and the turn signal LED's are so bright that I don't think I would ever not notice that they were on.

JOHNNY59 Jun 19, 2014 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by TallgeeseIV (Post 18265844)
I've read 8 or so antique threads now, and over the past 5 years, it seems there's still no consensus on what flasher to use.

I currently have front LED turn signals, and standard bulbs in the rear, with sequential tail lights and Tridon EL12 flashers.

The EL12's are a bit too fast for my sequentials, and I know they won't work once I replace the rears with LED's as well.

I'm NOT willing to give up the clicking sound, I really pay attention to that.

So, has anyone found a proper No Load flasher which also has a slow enough rate for sequentials AND has sound?


I used a Ford flasher that I modded to make it adjustable. basically its just adding a adjustable resistor (pot). I wired it up and keep it in the console so I can adjust the flash rate easily.

MC Ray Jun 19, 2014 10:08 PM

I used EF32RL with my LEDs. They work great and click.

TallgeeseIV Jul 17, 2014 02:59 PM

Well, I just installed a couple "CF12ANL-01 LED Bulb Electronic Flasher" units from Superbrightleds.com. They're still way too fast for Sequentials, maybe even a little faster than a the EL12's... but at least they're electronic, they'll work for now... ugh. This is such a stupid problem.

Can anyone explain how to make them adjustable? I know I need an adjustable resistor, just not sure which one or where to solder the leads to...

ThoR294 Jul 17, 2014 03:07 PM

what if you actually put LEDs everywhere? you said you have regular bulbs in the rear

TallgeeseIV Jul 17, 2014 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by ThoR294 (Post 18326319)
what if you actually put LEDs everywhere? you said you have regular bulbs in the rear

For now, yes. I don't know what would happen if I changed all of them to LED. The rear LED's are kind of expensive so I was putting that off until I got flashers that could do the sequentials slowly enough.

I just found an article on instructables detailing how to make an electronic flasher adjustable so I'm probably going to do that this weekend, I'm not sure if I can post the link to it here or not... It's not selling anything.

ThoR294 Jul 17, 2014 03:13 PM

I have a feeling it would be fixed if you went full lED... but I agree. That is why I am hesitant about going rear LED. I heard they are pricey. Which ones were you looking at?

TallgeeseIV Jul 17, 2014 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by ThoR294 (Post 18326327)
I have a feeling it would be fixed if you went full lED... but I agree. That is why I am hesitant about going rear LED. I heard they are pricey. Which ones were you looking at?

Well that's the other reason. I tried some leftover 194 bulbs for the outer brake lights/3rd sequential light, and they're full on when I hit the brakes or they're flashing, but they just flicker like crazy under the lower current when your headlights are on but you're not braking. I have no idea what LED's you're supposed to use to have them be able to dim and brighten like the normal bulbs. Any idea yourself?

ThoR294 Jul 17, 2014 03:26 PM

No idea lol. I just started researching it yesterday... haha

TallgeeseIV Jul 17, 2014 03:40 PM

Well, This was written up for a 93-97 model T/A but most of the bulbs are still correct for the 98-02 model. A few of the LED models here have come down in price since this was written too. But the 194 bulbs listed are the ones I tried and they flickered...

http://s4.postimg.org/vhrmbq15p/Tran..._Bulb_List.png

ThoR294 Jul 17, 2014 03:49 PM

Nice. thanks for that!

I need to find a high mounted LED light that actually fits high rise spoilers (T/A spoilers) lol. (I want a clear one)

TallgeeseIV Jul 17, 2014 03:51 PM

Oh, I actually did change my 3rd brake light to LED (02 T/A with hi-spoiler), I just replaced the 194 bulbs with the red 194 LED's and it's bright as heck.

ThoR294 Jul 17, 2014 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by TallgeeseIV (Post 18326395)
Oh, I actually did change my 3rd brake light to LED (02 T/A with hi-spoiler), I just replaced the 194 bulbs with the red 194 LED's and it's bright as heck.

I want it clear to match my soon to be frosted LT1 tails :hijack:

TallgeeseIV Jul 17, 2014 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by ThoR294 (Post 18326402)
I want it clear to match my soon to be frosted LT1 tails :hijack:

Ooooh, ok. Hmm... Yeah, good luck to you on that. Maybe 6LE will offer that one day.

I'm assuming you've seen this one? Picture in the third post.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...ake-light.html

Not sure if that's the kind of thing you're looking for.

Also, google image search "trans am clear third brake light" a couple results there look promising too.

ThoR294 Jul 17, 2014 04:13 PM

Correct...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-1997-Pontiac-FireBird-Chrome-Housing-LED-Third-3rd-Brake-Light/291138302302?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D8386480584963764879%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D20140211132617%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D370905816315%26clkid%3D8386482005990687162&_qi=RTM1562570
the description says "NOT FOR HIGH RISE" :|

TallgeeseIV Jul 18, 2014 10:27 PM

You've gotta be kidding me. I got two 500k ohm potentiometers, and i opened up one of the 2 flashers from superbrightleds and they're water-proofed, aka filled with hot glue. No way to get to the board.... uuuugh.

Does anyone know an electronic flasher model that does NOT have this issue?


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