You can find the starter kit at www.zainostore.com

Can you tell me why you are so interested in it?

I would suggest going to www.autopia.org and find what's really right for you.

 

GOD WTF is wrong with Zaino??????????????????????????? If you have a new car finish (not a bunch of swirl marks etc), a properly prepared finish is a given and really essential for any wax\polish. There is nothing wrong with Zaino and while I haven't tried every product out there (no or money for that) Zaino will Satisfy 99% of the needs out there. It does last forever, it does protect your finish, it does repel dust, the amount you get for the money isn't bad. Its a very nice product. I'm not a Zaino Zealout I like how it looks on my car.

NOW if your car is not "new like" and needs some work that would fall under preparation, no Zaino will just make the good part of your paint look better it will not fix imperfections. Maybe I'm just an idiot but the **** looks good on my ride, again I wouldn't say its way better than the meguires I used to use but it does last a whole lot longer.

Maybe I'll try something different later but I doubt it. Now my 98 black vert THAT would not be a good canditate for a zaino only finish.....

93ta with 338rwtq gotta love those 93's

 

I hope you aren't directing those comments to me. I haven't said anything bad about Zaino. I just feel that people should have options. Without options, it just promotes ignorance, which is far too common on car forums. Your car looks nice, but lacks depth of color, which many people like. Some people like the saran wrap look and Zaino will give you that.

I like Zaino and use it (on light colored vehicles). I am not so thick-skulled to think that there is nothing else out there that compares. You don't hear about Zaino winning too many Concours d' Elegance events. Why is that?

 

I will agree on the saran wrap comment and I figure that as a trade for durability. But how the hell does my car lack depth of color?

My comments are not intended as argumentive at all as you say there is alot of ignorance I only know two products well and that is Zaino and off the shelf Meguires products. Both are good Zaino lasts longer and a different kind of shine.

Back to depth of color how do you figure? AND if that is the case what would you suggest that? I've been to Autiotopa and its the same crap on every boards except some comes from professional detailers with tools, expertise and time alot of garage detailers don't have.

Again where is my car lacking in depth?

 

Again not trying to be argumentative, but I see alot of your posts and post like it saying "go learn at this other site" where it just says the same crap all the rest of the sites say. So if you tell somebody their car lacks depth in color or Zaino isn't that great why don't you explain YOUR experience and knowledge instead of calliing everyone ignorant? Which is not a negative or positive thing to say, ignorance is nuetral, but the only way your going to learn is through experience and sharing which is what the Zaino users in here are doing. Sure we maybe ignorant to better things but that site you refer to says the same things about the products listed as every site does.

For instance I checked on Autiotopa for a leather cleaner one person RAVES about the smell the other say it smell like a sanitized bathroom and make him want to throw up. I'm still ignorant of that product until I use it for myself or someone can better describe what it can do and how well it performs....

 

damn, and all I did was ask about zaino, I didnt know this thread was going to turn into a heated argument.....

Well as it turns out, my car was owned by a woman or should I say a young girl. She didnt take very good care of it, and drove it in the snow in Massachusetts. So yes there are swirl marks, and imperfections in my paint. I am not looking for some miracle wax to recondition my paint job. I know that the imperfections will still be there. I have used Maquires for years, even with a clay bar, and yes, properly preped the paint but using dishwashing liquid before clay bar, and waxing, but never any other time. Ultimatly, I will give Zaino a shot when I get home from Iraq and see how I like it. Seeing as how I have a black car, I know that I have to keep wax on it. But then again, I really dont mind detailing my car at all, dont mind waking up early on a Sat/Sun morning and waxing the car all day.......but I appreciate all your comments on this subject.....again, I had no idea that it was going to go into an arguement.....but keep going, its giving me a little chuckle out here....... Thanks again

Rob

 

Sorry if my comments sounded like bickering, but anyways Zaino will definately make your car look good (maybe not as good as other products, and I mean that) but good.

I did a full prep like your talking about with good towels. Then 3 coats of Z-5 and 2 of Z-2 I believe, I may have that backwards though Its been awhile I need to get off my *** Also I did Z6 with a damp towel before, between each coat and after the last. I LOVE Z6 its kinda like a quick fix shine. and you will have a IMHO deep plastic looking luster. But again one of the real benifits is how easy it is to clean your car and how long it lasts after putting it on.

And ZaneO I am sincere in wanting to know what you would recommend for my car and honestly might try it, I'm no "zaino worshiper" just the best thing I've used in my experience if you can point me to something that works better I would be VERY appreciative

Bobby

 

Well I did ask for opinions....so I got what I asked for...LOL....thanks Bobby.....

Rob

 

My opinion, before you order the $80 zaino kit, try Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax. Me and the local boys have been using it for a few months now, ever since it came out. The stuff shines like nobodies business, and has held up for me this long. (product just came out a few months ago) Good thing is, you can get it at your local auto parts store or wal mart or target.

 

believe what you may. see above for comments on prep.
spend money on prep, not wax
i used zaino for a while on my black ss, turbobuick turned me on to menzerna
and prep. the difference after prep is to hard to tell between menzerna & zaino
the wheeled prep made a amazing difference in shine..
i think you could use 1.95 wax and it would still look great (may not last long)

 

My comments weren't slamming you or your car. I think your car looks great. It does have the saran wrap look, which goes hand in hand with lack of depth. Any person who is honest to themselves will tell that's what Zaino gives you.

Again, I use Zaino and LIKE Zaino. I chose to only use it on light colored cars, due to the depth of color issue. I have found that other products tend to offer a deeper color when using them, such as Wolfgang. Here is my example:

Black Vette w/ Zaino. It looks great, but IMHO looks plastic and sterile.



Black Vette w/ Wolfgang. The finish is much deeper (blacker), IMO.



Can you please point me to the other sites you are referring to that have the same information as Autopia? I think that if you were to spend some time looking for what you need over there, you would have a much different result. I agree that the only way to find out if you like and it works for you is to use it yourself, but you can get tons of information over there to help you decide if you want to try it.

Is there anything else I can clarify or help with?

I'm not and wasn't trying to cause trouble, but this whole Zaino cures cancer mentality drives me crazy. I'm just trying to help with my knowledge, experience, and resources.

I am not trying to sell anyone on a differenct product. My best advice would be to invest in a Porter Cable buffer and a couple of polishes. That will always give the best depth, shine, and color to ANY finish. The last step product is only about 5% of what you are seeing on a properly prepped finished. Wash, clay, wash, polish, and seal. Nothing will ever beat that.

 

93wickedTA - I don't think your comments were argumentative, I think this is a good discussion. One of the things that is very hard to do is to try and tell the "truth" without bashing a product when everyone is so gung-ho for that particular product. I know for a fact that oftentimes I may come across as "anti-zaino" but the fact of the matter is that I am not. I use the stuff on light colored cars and I love it. If the general consensus was that Pinnacle Souveran (the wax I use) was the end-all be-all of waxes I would disagree with that and make strong points to the contrary.

Comments like that are the ones that have detail geeks like me and ZaneO pulling our hair out, because then the consensus becomes that there is a best product that one should use for detailing problems. Based on his posts, I'm thinking the most important product that HastingsRJ should be purchasing is a Porter-Cable 7424. Now it seems he's going to be spending his $80 on Zaino, and I'm betting the car isn't going to look much better.

ZaneO isn't promoting another specific product, but rather a process. OwenMustang pointed out in his thread that with proper prep he couldn't see a whit of difference between $10 meguiars and $50 Zaino in terms of looks. Now when it comes to durability for certain Zaino has the edge over the meguiars, and maybe because of that Zaino is still the best product for his needs, but in terms of looks alone, the only "correct" answer is prep. A black car that's been prepped (and no wax or ANYTHING applied to it) will look 10x better than an unprepped car with 500 coats of zaino (and thats a whole other can of worms, anyone who believes their coats of Zaino or any other product are actually adding up is out of their mind, after about 5-6 coats you've reached the max "depth" of coverage you're ever going to get).

Anyhow, I think this is a good discussion, not an argument. I know that most of these guys aren't here to bash, but just trying to help. I know I am. It makes no difference to me whether or not your car looks nice, I'm just trying to share some experiences to help maybe make it look a little nicer, thats all. No harm, no foul.

-T

 

Personally, and I am the one I want to please, I prefer the look of the Zaino finish over a carnauba product. But not everybody does. To me it has an incredible shine and since Zaino is 99% optically clear, I am getting the true color of my car.

But that is why people should try different products to find out what THEY like best. To some folks who have garage queens, durability is not an issue, to the everyday driver, durability and protection are very important.

Everyone has different needs from a product and different tastes.

 

All that you have said is correct. I just wanted to state that the only way to get the true color of your car is to keep it properly polished.