GRRRR Swirls!
GRRRR Swirls! I recently (within the past month) did the full Menzerna intensive/final polish, then sealed with Zaino. Washed the car last weekend and either my wash mitt, my Absorber, or (most likely) the microfiber towel I was using to do post-Absorber wipe ups had something on it that caused some pretty significant swirls. Is it safe to re-do the Intensive and final polishes this soon? If so, I'm assuming I the water/alcohol mix would be in order, to get through the Zaino, correct?
Thanks!
-Mike
Thanks!
-Mike
about swirl marks, my bright rally red z has had them since i bought it months ago(especially the hood) and ive never really tried doing anything about them. i did wax my car a few months ago, but that didnt seem to do anything to them. what can be done to get rid of these things? not trying to hijack a thread here, just figured it was along the same lines.
thanks,
anthony
thanks,
anthony
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Waxing a car does nothing for swirl marks. If they are light swirl marks and hand polish can work. I prefer a product called "Safe Cut" made by The Wax Shop. Do not rub in circles especially if you are trying to get out circular scratches. Rub at 90 degree angle to scratches than a 45 degree angle.
If they are deeper scratches you will need to get the area buffed. Beware buffing, if you have never done it before start with a light compound and work your way up. Don't let the buffer sit in one spot for too long and do not press to hard. Burning through your paint is only fixed by repainting.
If you polish your car you will have to wax over it. Rule of thumb polishing gives you that shine and removes light scratches or swirls and wax will protect your finish not enhance it.
5 years of detailing experince at a top notch detailer.
If they are deeper scratches you will need to get the area buffed. Beware buffing, if you have never done it before start with a light compound and work your way up. Don't let the buffer sit in one spot for too long and do not press to hard. Burning through your paint is only fixed by repainting.
If you polish your car you will have to wax over it. Rule of thumb polishing gives you that shine and removes light scratches or swirls and wax will protect your finish not enhance it.
5 years of detailing experince at a top notch detailer.
1. What kind of wash mitt did you use? If it was microfiber, that could easily be your problem.
2. Do you rinse your car frequently while washing?
If you aren't getting all the dirt off of your car and proceed to wipe with a microfiber towel, it will just drag the dirt across your paint. That WILL cause micro-marring and scratching. It is a PITA. Trust me, I know. I've had the same problem, and have been examining my washing technique ever since, and I'm getting much fewer scratches and micro-marring these days. And before you go asking "What the hell do you know about detailing?" Here goes...
I've used Menzerna many times, and it works great. If you keep getting scratches, though, it is being caused by something you are doing while washing your car. Microfiber does NOT release dirt very well, and won't even think about doing so until submerged in water. For this reason, I "pat dry" my car as well as use a leaf blower, and whatever water spots are left get taken care of with a quick detailer (Quick Shine). Let me know if you have ?s
Steve
2. Do you rinse your car frequently while washing?
If you aren't getting all the dirt off of your car and proceed to wipe with a microfiber towel, it will just drag the dirt across your paint. That WILL cause micro-marring and scratching. It is a PITA. Trust me, I know. I've had the same problem, and have been examining my washing technique ever since, and I'm getting much fewer scratches and micro-marring these days. And before you go asking "What the hell do you know about detailing?" Here goes...
I've used Menzerna many times, and it works great. If you keep getting scratches, though, it is being caused by something you are doing while washing your car. Microfiber does NOT release dirt very well, and won't even think about doing so until submerged in water. For this reason, I "pat dry" my car as well as use a leaf blower, and whatever water spots are left get taken care of with a quick detailer (Quick Shine). Let me know if you have ?s
Steve
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The wash mitt is lamb's wool, not microfiber. It has been very good to my car, but it may be in need of replacement. I'll probably also get a new Absorber, since I've washed this one (per the instuctions) a couple times and it may also just be holding on to some dirt.
The reason I think it's the MF towels is because of this particular set. I have a few others that I've used for a while and they're great, but this set has given me problems before, mostly with streaking. This time, the swirls are VERY noticeable (to me, anyway...my wife thinks I'm insane), so I think I may re-polish, then use a different set while buffing. I have a couple waffle weave towels that I love, but they were dirty when I washed the car last weekend.
Only problem is, it is supposed to rain tomorrow. I might wash it tonight and detail in the garage, then leave it there until Monday, when I have to get back to work.
-Mike
The reason I think it's the MF towels is because of this particular set. I have a few others that I've used for a while and they're great, but this set has given me problems before, mostly with streaking. This time, the swirls are VERY noticeable (to me, anyway...my wife thinks I'm insane), so I think I may re-polish, then use a different set while buffing. I have a couple waffle weave towels that I love, but they were dirty when I washed the car last weekend.
Only problem is, it is supposed to rain tomorrow. I might wash it tonight and detail in the garage, then leave it there until Monday, when I have to get back to work.
-Mike
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ive noticed that theres some micro marring from using the mf's from costco. i have some i ordered online from TOL and they have been staying soft since i ordered them last year. the costco's are kinda hard now and not as plush so that may be a concern. But generally IP will remove any previous coats of zaino that are on the
Flaminchiten67 wax does protect but probaly no longer than about 30 days i.e meguiars 26 High Tech Yellow Wax, Sealants however are more durable. I cant think of a wax that does not have any protection properties unless your thinking of a glaze.
luvmeZ28 you can remove them w/ a PC and some menzerna polishes found here www.premiumautocare.com or you can have someone who knows what theyre doing do it for ya. But if the swirls are not that bad you can invest in that PC and knock them out your self. Good luck
Flaminchiten67 wax does protect but probaly no longer than about 30 days i.e meguiars 26 High Tech Yellow Wax, Sealants however are more durable. I cant think of a wax that does not have any protection properties unless your thinking of a glaze.
luvmeZ28 you can remove them w/ a PC and some menzerna polishes found here www.premiumautocare.com or you can have someone who knows what theyre doing do it for ya. But if the swirls are not that bad you can invest in that PC and knock them out your self. Good luck
