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Aug 7, 2006 | 10:39 AM

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Foglights melt???

Hey guys I jsut ordered some Eurodezign 893 fog light bulbs to put in my stock 98 firebird fogs. I ordered them because I have 2 light coats of vht on the fogs and want to keep my fogs somewhat bright. however i just saw in some old thread that higher wattage bulbs will melt the lens of the stock fogs. Is this true??? has it happened to ne u guys? i think the eurodezigns 893 fogs are like 35 watts or something. thanks for ne info

Aug 7, 2006 | 11:09 AM

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Standard bulbs are 27W, 55W bulbs will definitely melt the housings, 35-37W bulbs have been used with mixed results - some people say there lights melted - some not.

Aug 7, 2006 | 11:41 AM

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thanks, hopefuilly im on the good end of the mixed spectrum lol, ne1 else who has used these?

Aug 7, 2006 | 12:15 PM

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I have used 35 watt 893 bulbs. Although the lens itself hasn't melted (yet), the ring where the bulbs twists in did. Which makes removal and re-installation difficult (possibly impossible if they melt more). Either way, I',m installing aftermarket housings and bulbs and throwing away the old units. They kept filling with water and the silver reflector in the passenger side one had black splotches. The new aftermarket units are much brighter.

Aug 7, 2006 | 12:39 PM

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i guess i may as well take my chances and if they melt then its just a good excuse for me to get some brighter after market ones lol

Aug 7, 2006 | 01:26 PM

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eurodezins will not melt i have 894 on my camaro for over a year no probs good bulbs

Aug 7, 2006 | 02:00 PM

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hopefully since i got a pair bein shipped to me as we speak, 893's to be exact

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Aug 7, 2006 | 09:44 PM

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Here is my aftermarket solution:
http://www.fadingarrow.com/FogLights.htm

Aug 8, 2006 | 03:53 AM

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I have the 37.5 watt fog light bulbs, theycame stock in my car. I put some aftermarket bulbs in with a higher wattage and not a single problem.

Aug 8, 2006 | 06:27 AM

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VIP1 - those look like some nice aftermarkets, ill def keep that page as a possible solution if my fogs melt. One thing i dont get, what is all that breaking bulbs and soldering **** for???

Blown 346 - 37.5 watt came stock in ur car?

Aug 8, 2006 | 06:47 AM

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Yeah, they were the stock bulbs in my 2000 SS. Now Im running 80 watt bulbs with no problems. I was concerned about the wiring harness melting from the difference in wattage. I talked to the company and there bulbs were a direct replacement for the 894's I needed. They havent had one bulb cause a problem with excess heat, burning melting etc.

Aug 8, 2006 | 06:49 AM

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those cant be the same stock fogs as my 98 bird, are they? people say they have melted at 37 watts and def at 50, but ur runnin 80 lol

Aug 8, 2006 | 07:44 AM

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VIP1 - those look like some nice aftermarkets, ill def keep that page as a possible solution if my fogs melt. One thing i dont get, what is all that breaking bulbs and soldering **** for???

The old 893 bulb had exploded due to water getting in the stock housings. These aftermarket fog light units come with pig tails that plug into their aftermarket harness. I didnt want to use their aftermarket harness. I was trying to figure out a way to connect the new fog light units to my car while I was looking at the shattered old bulb. Then it hit me. I could reuse the bases from the old bulbs so that the new units would directly plug into the stock wiring harness. Look at the pictures on my site. Notice the larger of the 2 connectors.....its actually the base from the old 893 bulb.
(I updated my site with the above description and two closer pictures of the bases.)

BTW, the stock Camaro fog light housings are different than the stock Firebird fog light housings. The stock Firebird fog light housings and lenses are plastic. Any higher wattage bulb will melt the stock Firebird fog light housings (even the 37 watt 893/894 bulbs will melt them). Correct me if I'm wrong, but arent the Camaro fog light housings a projector design with a glass ball encased in a metal housing?

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Aug 8, 2006 | 08:14 AM

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BTW, the stock Camaro fog light housings are different than the stock Firebird fog light housings. The stock Firebird fog light housings and lenses are plastic. Any higher wattage bulb will melt the stock Firebird fog light housings (even the 37 watt 893/894 bulbs will melt them).

It's the HOUSINGS that we are talking about here!! You hit it right on the head, by saying the lenses are plastic. People get in trouble when they put hot aftermarket bulbs, into the original stock housings. If you want to run a 55w bulb, then get the entire set up, and replace it all (housings and bulbs).
Don't just get the bulb and stick in your stock housings that are built for only 27w. Once you melt thru the lens and the housing, that heat is no longer contained and will start to melt your bumper.

Aug 8, 2006 | 08:42 AM

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hmmm, maybe ill just put the old bulbs back in for now and deal with duller than stock fogs for now till i can buy some after market ones like on ur page from pepboys. a difference of 8-10 watts isnt worth the risk of messin up the bumper or somethin

Aug 8, 2006 | 08:49 AM

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i dunno if u said somewhere already, but what max wattage bulbs can those pep boys aftermarkets take and would it be possible to show a night time pic of them?

Aug 8, 2006 | 09:21 AM

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i dunno if u said somewhere already, but what max wattage bulbs can those pep boys aftermarkets take and would it be possible to show a night time pic of them?

I don't know about max wattage, but they come with blue-coated 55 watt H3 bulbs. Not my choice, but I'll leave them untill they blow (I'd rather have clear bulbs, but they do produce a nice white light). They are much brighter than the stock 27 watt 880 bulbs and also much brighter than the 35 watt 893 bulbs. Unfortunately I didn't take any before-and-after pictures for comparison. I can take the "after" pictures tonight. If you want a before-and-after comparison, there are other threads on here with similar setups and pics.

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Aug 8, 2006 | 09:45 AM

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Why are the Trans am fogs different and are they glass? my car as shown below. has the fogs in the middle of the bumper not on the out side. i thought mine were glass could i be wrong?