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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Dangerous!!!

I'll tell what's dangerous...all those damn 30 foot tall SUVs with their projector beams shining right into my rear view mirror. Cut-off? What cutoff? They're so damn high that the beam pattern goes right into my face! At least my lights are angled down a little for some common courtesy. Again, I've never ever had someone flash me with their brights.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thecobrahunter
Dangerous!!!

I'll tell what's dangerous...all those damn 30 foot tall SUVs with their projector beams shining right into my rear view mirror. Cut-off? What cutoff? They're so damn high that the beam pattern goes right into my face! At least my lights are angled down a little for some common courtesy. Again, I've never ever had someone flash me with their brights.
^ x2.....

Cheap and dangerous.... funny how everyone says it looks nice, and no one has ever complained or flashed me. The damn trucks are the ones with curtesy issues.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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I probably got mine from the same guy you did. Here's my setup:

12K in EuroLight conversion housings, 10K in fogs.




My headlights were aimed up WAY too high when i took these photos so the light is right into the camera. They're better now though.

I can see everything with these HIDs, I love it.
And enough with the glare bullcrap, 'cause nobody ever flashes me or shows any signs that i'm blinding them. my lights stay on the road and out of people's cars.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Ive had my ebay HIDs 8500k for almost 4 months, still work to this day. for $65 shipped they were the best thing i could do, plus it helps when driving at night.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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they do glare but they dont blind people unless staring for long periods of time
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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I think they look great
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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i just ordered my set 2 days ago...woo-hoo!! I'll let you know how it goes Ref.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Glare is glare. Who cares if a truck has more glare than you do? This isn't about them, this is about F-body's with HID's in reflector housings. Just because you don't get flashed, doesn't mean they don't produce glare. I used to flash people with horrible glare, but there are so many out there anymore it's just annoying to do it. If someone is REALLY bad, I will give them a flash with my 170 watt high beams.......

Originally Posted by Brian2006
Really getting annoyed with you always coming in these threads and bashing the halogen reflector/HID combo. You don't even have an LS1 car to know the extent of what the combination looks like.

Let me guess, is he gonna get a $20k ticket as well?
And why would I care what you think? **** off, honestly. Who cares if I don't have an LS1 car? I know more about HID's, projectors, halogen reflectors, bulbs, ballasts, ignitors, cut-off's, etc., than you do. That's why I come into these threads.

Why don't you do some damn research. Here's two websites to browse:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=21
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

I'm going to continue to post in these threads until people start doing it correctly. You don't have to read my replies. Skip over them for all I care.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HibachiZ28
I'm going to continue to post in these threads until people start doing it correctly.
This board gets all over people for doing unsafe things to their cars and tell them to not be "rice". Examples include putting on tires too big for their wheels or not properly installing the WOT switch for nitrous.

But when it comes to the safety of others, such as HID's blinding people, not many say a word. Kinda funny.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sommer86
i just ordered my set 2 days ago...woo-hoo!! I'll let you know how it goes Ref.
Damn dude I wish I had known you wanted a set I would have traded you for your whistler modded lights. I have Marks old projectors.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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just curious you say not to install HID in a reflector housing. now what if you scuff the reflector some so it isnt as reflective and is little duller. or how about just making reflector satin black or similar? i know doing this with a regular bulb and it becomes less brighter
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Originally Posted by HibachiZ28
Glare is glare. Who cares if a truck has more glare than you do? This isn't about them, this is about F-body's with HID's in reflector housings. Just because you don't get flashed, doesn't mean they don't produce glare. I used to flash people with horrible glare, but there are so many out there anymore it's just annoying to do it. If someone is REALLY bad, I will give them a flash with my 170 watt high beams.......



And why would I care what you think? **** off, honestly. Who cares if I don't have an LS1 car? I know more about HID's, projectors, halogen reflectors, bulbs, ballasts, ignitors, cut-off's, etc., than you do. That's why I come into these threads.

Why don't you do some damn research. Here's two websites to browse:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=21
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

I'm going to continue to post in these threads until people start doing it correctly. You don't have to read my replies. Skip over them for all I care.
Dude calm down. Its great if you do know more about HIds, projectors and so on. You have every right to post your opinion. I personally dont care if your right, im not gonna change the setup YET. I honestly think you can word your replies far better, using profanity just makes you looks like a dumbass that thinks his way is the "right way". Just like if everyone posted on your threads about how getting your LT1 was "the wrong way" and calling you a dumbass cause they now more about ls1s which are better... Which doesnt matter cause its your car.

I have no problem with you making suggestions on how to improve a apperance mod, Just go about it in a more friendly way.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by HibachiZ28
Glare is glare. Who cares if a truck has more glare than you do? This isn't about them, this is about F-body's with HID's in reflector housings. Just because you don't get flashed, doesn't mean they don't produce glare. I used to flash people with horrible glare, but there are so many out there anymore it's just annoying to do it. If someone is REALLY bad, I will give them a flash with my 170 watt high beams.......



And why would I care what you think? **** off, honestly. Who cares if I don't have an LS1 car? I know more about HID's, projectors, halogen reflectors, bulbs, ballasts, ignitors, cut-off's, etc., than you do. That's why I come into these threads.

Why don't you do some damn research. Here's two websites to browse:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=21
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

I'm going to continue to post in these threads until people start doing it correctly. You don't have to read my replies. Skip over them for all I care.
I find it amusing how your bashing on everyone about this... but you just said you flash them with 170watt high beams... come on... your an idiot
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Next time my head light bulbs burn out, I will probably go with one of these eBay cheap *** HID kits. I just wonder if they will last a long time.

Hey, it looks good. If I thought KC lights looked good, I would put them on my car and drive with them on.

I could really give a **** less if some other douche thinks they are too bright.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Here's a quick easy, test. Swap vehicles with one of your buddies, preferably a car and not a truck/SUV, but it doesn't really matter. Have your buddy (in your vehicle) drive behind you at night. See if the lights are blinding and obnoxious. Now, have him drive towards you, on a straight, long road or highway. Again, is it blinding and obnoxious? It's nice to see what your headlights look like from other peoples points of view. That is usually a good, determining factor if you should keep them how they are, or throw in some projectors/other modification.


Originally Posted by 7845
just curious you say not to install HID in a reflector housing. now what if you scuff the reflector some so it isnt as reflective and is little duller. or how about just making reflector satin black or similar? i know doing this with a regular bulb and it becomes less brighter
There's not point. In the amount of time it takes you to separate the lens from the reflector, scuff it, or paint it or whatever you want to do, you could've retrofitted some great projectors in there (Infiniti FX, TSX, E55, E46, etc.) and had some of the best possible light on the road. All this stuff can be purchased quite inexpensively as well. Think about it. Save money for one or two more paychecks and do things the right way. You'll be happier in the long run as well.


Originally Posted by Dabeztz28
Dude calm down. Its great if you do know more about HIds, projectors and so on. You have every right to post your opinion. I personally dont care if your right, im not gonna change the setup YET. I honestly think you can word your replies far better, using profanity just makes you looks like a dumbass that thinks his way is the "right way". Just like if everyone posted on your threads about how getting your LT1 was "the wrong way" and calling you a dumbass cause they now more about ls1s which are better... Which doesnt matter cause its your car.

I have no problem with you making suggestions on how to improve a apperance mod, Just go about it in a more friendly way.
I wasn't yelling at you. If you took it as that, I didn't mean for it to be taken that way. It was Brian who the majority of my annoyance was originating from. It's amusing to me how I'm trying to help make things safer, and I'm bugging him somehow by doing this. That's why I posted my nice reply to you (#9) just saying it's unsafe and that you LS1 guys have lots of alternatives to just the factory reflector housings. Projectors are your friends. Even crappy eBay projectors will serve you much better than factory reflectors. Not only will it reduce glare for oncoming drivers, it'll also improve the amount of light that's being projected onto the road. So everyone is better off.


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I find it amusing how your bashing on everyone about this... but you just said you flash them with 170watt high beams... come on... your an idiot
I figured everyone would get a kick out of it. And I am an idiot 'cause I flash 'em for a quarter of a second to let them know that their lights are too bright? Whatever you say buddy.
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Originally Posted by HibachiZ28
Here's a quick easy, test. Swap vehicles with one of your buddies, preferably a car and not a truck/SUV, but it doesn't really matter. Have your buddy (in your vehicle) drive behind you at night. See if the lights are blinding and obnoxious. Now, have him drive towards you, on a straight, long road or highway. Again, is it blinding and obnoxious? It's nice to see what your headlights look like from other peoples points of view. That is usually a good, determining factor if you should keep them how they are, or throw in some projectors/other modification.




There's not point. In the amount of time it takes you to separate the lens from the reflector, scuff it, or paint it or whatever you want to do, you could've retrofitted some great projectors in there (Infiniti FX, TSX, E55, E46, etc.) and had some of the best possible light on the road. All this stuff can be purchased quite inexpensively as well. Think about it. Save money for one or two more paychecks and do things the right way. You'll be happier in the long run as well.




I wasn't yelling at you. If you took it as that, I didn't mean for it to be taken that way. It was Brian who the majority of my annoyance was originating from. It's amusing to me how I'm trying to help make things safer, and I'm bugging him somehow by doing this. That's why I posted my nice reply to you (#9) just saying it's unsafe and that you LS1 guys have lots of alternatives to just the factory reflector housings. Projectors are your friends. Even crappy eBay projectors will serve you much better than factory reflectors. Not only will it reduce glare for oncoming drivers, it'll also improve the amount of light that's being projected onto the road. So everyone is better off.




I figured everyone would get a kick out of it. And I am an idiot 'cause I flash 'em for a quarter of a second to let them know that their lights are too bright? Whatever you say buddy.
so it takes to much time to scuff the reflectors? but ppl do the whislter mod every day. there you go 2 birds one stone. also no way in hell im going to save 3k up for a set of properly done HIDs. you said save 2 pays sorry ill pass and pay the 80 bucks
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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so it takes to much time to scuff the reflectors? but ppl do the whislter mod every day. there you go 2 birds one stone. also no way in hell im going to save 3k up for a set of properly done HIDs. you said save 2 pays sorry ill pass and pay the 80 bucks
There's no point in scuffing or painting the reflector anyway. This just ruins your light output unless it's done at the precise location to create some sort of cut-off. A glare shield would also be needed to prevent additional glare.

$3,000? Where did you get that figure? That's out of the ballpark. Here was my price breakdown:

-$200 for my projector lows & Free Form highs
-$150 for my HID kit
-$90 for an upgraded wiring harness (12 gauge with 2 relays and fuses) to handle the high voltage at startup

So in total, I paid $440. You can even put it together for less than that! I just knew what I wanted and went for it.
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Originally Posted by HibachiZ28
There's no point in scuffing or painting the reflector anyway. This just ruins your light output unless it's done at the precise location to create some sort of cut-off. A glare shield would also be needed to prevent additional glare.

$3,000? Where did you get that figure? That's out of the ballpark. Here was my price breakdown:

-$200 for my projector lows & Free Form highs
-$150 for my HID kit
-$90 for an upgraded wiring harness (12 gauge with 2 relays and fuses) to handle the high voltage at startup

So in total, I paid $440. You can even put it together for less than that! I just knew what I wanted and went for it.
hold on your the car with the fog lights for headlights right? now if you are and you did it for the so called projector setup and you beleive that is nice looking thats great. but to others its ugly as sin. but again that is ppls opinions just as you stated yours.

as for the ballpark number. you said save up for 2 pays
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hold on your the car with the fog lights for headlights right? now if you are and you did it for the so called projector setup and you beleive that is nice looking thats great. but to others its ugly as sin. but again that is ppls opinions just as you stated yours.

as for the ballpark number. you said save up for 2 pays
I don't have fog lights as head lights. I have 90mm Hella projector low beam headlights with HID lighting behind it. I also have 90mm Hella Free Form high beams. I didn't do the "PIAA" conversion as some people have done on here. I like performance. I could care less about looks. I understand people have their opinions, but their opinions were purely aesthetic, and not regarding the performance/safety of the headlights. I'm not in here posting about what looks good/bad, I am posting in here about what has the best performance and is safe at the same time.

I didn't mean a full paycheck. I figured, if you pay rent, utils, insurance, cell phone, food, gas, etc., you could save $250 one check and $250 the next. You'd then have enough for a decent setup.
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I personally bought my HIDs because I have an eye problem and need to see the road as much as possible. I had my brother drive on a few roads going the opposite way in his car to tell me if the lights hurt, glare, hit his face, whatever. He said the lights never aggrivated him or did anything they werent supposed to. That being said, I bought them for my own safety, and nothing's going to make me change them.

EDIT: And there's not a shot in hell that I would spend $440 for a "non glary" HID kit. I'd rather put that towards something else!
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