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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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hey guys, I have an 88 chevy 4x4 w/350 auto. The piece of crap TBI 350 is on it's last legs and I was thinking of dropping in a crate motor, but a 4-barrel crate motor. what would I be looking at to drop this into the truck?

1.What can I do about the fuel system, it has an electric in-tank pump now.
2.Accesories, I need a lot of help here.
3.Did the computer have anything to do with the tranny or running gear in 88?
4.anything else you can tell me would be appreciated.

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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hey guys, I have an 88 chevy 4x4 w/350 auto. The piece of crap TBI 350 is on it's last legs and I was thinking of dropping in a crate motor, but a 4-barrel crate motor. what would I be looking at to drop this into the truck?

1.What can I do about the fuel system, it has an electric in-tank pump now.
2.Accesories, I need a lot of help here.
3.Did the computer have anything to do with the tranny or running gear in 88?
4.anything else you can tell me would be appreciated.

-William
First, just because I am curious, why do you want to go backwards to a carb.? But to answer your question,1-You can reguate the fuel pressure down to run a carb. 2-Most access. like exhaust, brackets, etc. can be bolt on or made to work with very little modification. 3-Ecm had nothing really to do with transmission in 1988 except tcc, you can fix that with a pressure switch or lockup kit. 4-I would spend the money and effort on improving the TBI and just leave it at that. We actually put a 383 Vortec Head, 700 CFM TBI engine with shorty headers, small comp cam, and performer rpm intake with adapter in one of our shop trucks today. 1992 C3500, 5-speed. I will try and get it on the dyno Saturday and let you know how it turns out after we tune it. I am not expecting a power house, but it should be a decent towing truck now. We pull a 25 Ft equipment trailer mostly with this truck.

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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 01:52 AM
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i acutally did this exact same swap..i had an 88 tbi equipped truck.
i installed a holley red electric fuel pump in the place of the fuel filter.. (didnt pull the tank,,just pull through the existing pump with the electric holley)i just bought some fuel hose and pushed it over the hard line barbs. i bought a older model hei distributor with the coil in cap and used that..one of the wires that go to your existing coil is a swithced 12volts..test with a meter and find right one.. i cut all of the existing wires that went to all my sensors except the ground wires and the harness for the AC.. since the tbi uses a return style fuel system i capped off the return line right below the cab with a cap (where it turns form hard line to braided line) you will have to go with a aftermarket tranny lockup system..i used a tci 700r4 lockup kit..it has a vaccum switch that runs from the carb and will lock the tranny with the right vaccum and is adjustable.i alos mounted a swithc so i could manually lock it,,if you leave all your grounds your gauges will all work and everything will be peachy..you shouldnt have to worry about accessories..i kept mine all the way they wre pre-carb and all is well. need any help give me a shout
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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alright, now were gettin' somewhere. First off, I want to get rid of the TBI engine for a simpler 350 carb setup. I am older and more familiar with older engines and stuff(the carb crate motors are generally cheaper also). Secondly, I don't understand what you are talking about when you say "make my tranny lock"?? what is it you are controlling with the switch or whatever, torque converter lockup?

Also, thanks for the fuel and accesory info. Will the large front accesory bracket from my TBI motor fit the new carb crate motor?
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alright, now were gettin' somewhere. First off, I want to get rid of the TBI engine for a simpler 350 carb setup. I am older and more familiar with older engines and stuff(the carb crate motors are generally cheaper also). Secondly, I don't understand what you are talking about when you say "make my tranny lock"?? what is it you are controlling with the switch or whatever, torque converter lockup?

Also, thanks for the fuel and accesory info. Will the large front accesory bracket from my TBI motor fit the new carb crate motor?
Yes, the switch is for the torque convertor clutch and the bracket should bolt right on. It is really a pretty simple swap, you will be fine.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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I used a '77 block with a '92 TPI heads /intake . The bracket bolted up fine. The TBI computer is mainly associated with the fuel injection/ engine emmissions. I did have to remove a screw in plug on the engine right above the oil filter for the sending unit for the oil pressure gauge. Also , I had to block off the fitting behind the intake manifold for the older sending unit for the 77 oil pressure gauge. Other than than every thing else was fairly straight forward and simple.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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i just did this on a buddy's 91 camaro, dont try and pull through the stock pump thats asking for trouble. mallory makes a fuel pressure regulator for a return style fuel system that is adjustable to 12 psi, it costs $75. u just wire a oil pressure safety switch inline to the in tank fuel pump's existing relay. on my buds car his fuel lines came up the drivers side so i had to run new lines over to the passenger side from the tank. accesories will bolt right up no problem. just make sure that u have the right balancer and flexplate on the engine. the only wires i saved was the ones for the gauges and the trans wires.
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could I re-use the flexplate from my TBI motor?
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could I re-use the flexplate from my TBI motor?
yes u can
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Originally Posted by wbw2
could I re-use the flexplate from my TBI motor?
As long as your replacement is a one piece seal engine.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fast98
i just did this on a buddy's 91 camaro, dont try and pull through the stock pump thats asking for trouble. mallory makes a fuel pressure regulator for a return style fuel system that is adjustable to 12 psi, it costs $75. u just wire a oil pressure safety switch inline to the in tank fuel pump's existing relay. on my buds car his fuel lines came up the drivers side so i had to run new lines over to the passenger side from the tank. accesories will bolt right up no problem. just make sure that u have the right balancer and flexplate on the engine. the only wires i saved was the ones for the gauges and the trans wires.
why would that be asking for trouble? i talked to a few speed shops around here and they recommeded doing this over regualting the stock pump..i have had no problems with mine and this is exactly what i do..if my pump was ever to fail, its as easy as changing the fuel filter,,rather than dropping the tank..
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On my 94 SWB chevy truck, I just dropped my tank once, took off the in tank pump, extended the pickup tube and jb welded another sock type filter onto it. I then bolted a holley red fuel pump to the inside of the frame, right before the filter.
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Originally Posted by CrimeSScene
On my 94 SWB chevy truck, I just dropped my tank once, took off the in tank pump, extended the pickup tube and jb welded another sock type filter onto it. I then bolted a holley red fuel pump to the inside of the frame, right before the filter.
will the jb weld break not down in gasoline? i guess you probably thought of that already since you did it, but i never really thought about it..if not thats some strong shi!!!!
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimeSScene
On my 94 SWB chevy truck, I just dropped my tank once, took off the in tank pump, extended the pickup tube and jb welded another sock type filter onto it. I then bolted a holley red fuel pump to the inside of the frame, right before the filter.
honestly, that sounds like more work than simply regulating the in-tank pump down to carb pressure. Is there a reason someone should choose the other way? What are the pro's and con's of the different setups?
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how about removing the stock pump. leave the sending unit for gas gauge. cap off return line, and extend hard line from tbi to pump on block. and make new line from pump to carb.
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Wow, you pulled up a old thread.
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Ah who cares about dates LOL
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The OPs last log in was April of last year
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this is a good revival as i just sent out my 455 pontiac block to get bored out and im gonna throw that in my 95 sub. im thinking carbed 600ft-lbs of torque out of a slow turning motor will get me better gas milage out of my tbi 350
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Sorry to bring up a old thread, but good info.

1987 Chevy 4x4 - factory V6 TBI to 350 Carb conversion.

Q: what about going from a 4.3 V6 TBI to a 350 carb in my 87'' Chevy 4x4. I have a complete 350 block with HEI distributor all ready to drop in.
I know about the fuel system using a manual pump to take the PSI down lower to 6PSI and Im going to be running all autometer gauges for my oil, temp and volt gauges so thats not a problem with them working, just gotta wire them correctly.

1. What about all of un-used electrical wiring? any sorta fuses or relays which will cause problems of the truck running right or not? 2. Motor mounts, are they different or not, doesnt really seem that chevy would make different mounts for the same frame but just checking?

Anything else that I might be missing?

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