Automatic Transmission 2-Speed thru 10-Speed GM Autos | Converters | Shift Kits
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Vibration!!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 02:38 PM
  #1  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default Vibration!!!!!

Hey guys, here is my problem. I just completed? an LS3 swap in my 72 camaro. I have a pretty bad vibration. Its a tight vibration , if that makes sense. Anyway im running a 2004r and the driveshaft has some shake in it if you grab it and try to move it around. When i bought the tranny , i noticed the tailshaft was extremely loose. I called the shop that built it and they said it was normal for the 2004r to be this way and that the yoke fits in a bushing that keeps the tail shaft in position. i use the original powerglide yoke and found a driveshaft out of a astrovan ( junk yard find that was the right length ). Anybody have some knowledge on these trannies that might be able to tell me if this is my problem and maybe a fix. thanks and MERRY CHRISTMAS !!
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:52 PM
  #2  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default

Come on guys!!! Im calling up the trans Gods to help me figure this crap out!!! HELP!!!! LOL
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:38 PM
  #3  
kevin87turbot's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 205
Likes: 1
Default

The 200-4R does have a lot of slack in the output shaft. The driveshaft yoke is what keeps the output shaft concentric. If you have a magnetic base dial indicator you can check the runout of the driveshaft and ensure that it's not bent.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:03 PM
  #4  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default

Thanks, wonder how much play the yoke is suppose tohave in the tail shaft. just eye-ballin ( may be a southern term.LOL) the driveshaft, with the rear in the air, it seems too be spinning true, without load, more input!!! Thanks
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:23 PM
  #5  
Moter's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 260
Likes: 7
From: Hutto Tx
Default

Is the vibration under acceleration or a coast?
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:45 PM
  #6  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default

for the most part at steady cruze and acceleration.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:58 PM
  #7  
Moter's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 260
Likes: 7
From: Hutto Tx
Default

Can you jack the car and run with the rear wheels off the ground? Did you have the driveshaft balanced or did you just add the yoke to a shaft?
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 10:06 PM
  #8  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default

just put the yoke off my old shaft on the other one. i have jacked it up and run it. Seems right, justlooking at it?..?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 22, 2011 | 03:47 PM
  #9  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default

A more ideas ? Anyone know how much play the driveshaft yoke should have in a 2004r? Even though the splines are the same on the th350, powerglide, and 2004r, should i be using a specific 2004r drive shaft yoke to take the play out of the yoke bushing. Thanks
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2011 | 07:12 PM
  #10  
forcd ind's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,188
Likes: 293
From: woodbine, md
Default

does it vibrate sitting still, or driving it-how much spline engagement with the yoke
what flywheel did you use? what converter
does the converter snout engage the crank
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2011 | 07:38 PM
  #11  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default

Its very smooth in park. motor runs though clean. i used a hughs conversion flywheel with the spacer for the convertor snout.the spline engagement yoke to tranny is too much, if anything, id like a 1/4 inch less. i did use the wrong rear u joint in the rear. the cups are the right size on both ends, but in my ignorance, i didnt realize the measurements for the diff. yoke are suppose to be inner measurement for the locks. i just centered the u- joint in the diff. yoke and tightened it down .
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2011 | 09:04 AM
  #12  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default

Any more insight , guys ?
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2011 | 02:29 PM
  #13  
Old Geezer's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,639
Likes: 71
From: GA, USA
Default

"i just centered the u- joint in the diff. yoke and tightened it down ."

Suggest you do 2 things B4 you find the shaft sticking thru the floor...
Don't drive it til you get the right joint[s].
Don't over tighten the u-bolts. You WILL crush the cups to an out of round condition and cause VERY short joint life... [Not to mention vibrations]

Furthermore, if the shaft it too long, you stand a good chance of tearing up the trans, and shoving the converter into the thrust brgs in the engine...
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2011 | 03:31 PM
  #14  
newschool72's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 11
From: georgia
Default

Ol, gezzer, how long is too long on the drive shaft ? I have about 3/4 to 1 inch of movement in the driveshaft before bolting it up. i didnt over tighten the u-joint, but am concerned about it. it just gets confusing w the different ways the u-joints are measured. Anyone know what u-joint it would take to convert a 72 8.5 10 bolt in a camaro to a 92 astrovan driveshaft ?
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2011 | 01:39 AM
  #15  
brandon6.0's Avatar
TECH Addict
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,331
Likes: 29
From: Glennville, GA.
Default

hey man check this out. i had a 1989 silverado at one time. Was my first truck. Anyways, i had someone change my u-joints. He had tightened the u-joint in the rear and forgot to add the clips. Geuss what happined?.. Drivin along it slung one cap off, yoke bounced around inside the rear end and beat my trans out from under the truck. All within a few seconds of coming loose. Imagine WOT or heavy drivin! Wouldnt have been pretty. It ended up twisting the trans under the truck and broke completely lose of the motor. Almost stopped the truck in its tracks.

Anyways, story is... please get the correct u-joint!
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:27 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE