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Old 09-20-2018, 09:45 AM
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Yeah!!!! Everyone knows that a 4L80E will never break.
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Great post! Helped a ton with trying to diagnose an issue... but, the one I have doesn’t seem to fit neatly into any of these.

2011 GMC Sierra 1500
started noticing shifts taking off from stop are taking a second, like it takes engine speed a short time to wind up and then engage. If I accellerate slow and smooth, can’t notice it.

also, if I left off my acceleration before second gear, it seems to hit 2nd odd... sorta like if you were pulling a wagon with a rope and slowed down, it would hit you in the back of the legs. That the analogy I came up with anyway.

Highway and other speeds seem fine.
other gears seem fine.

any thoughts advice or info is greatly appreciated.

thank you!
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step #1: check fluid level and condition.
step #2: check for leaks.
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Originally Posted by joecar
step #1: check fluid level and condition.
step #2: check for leaks.
Fluid level is good.
just crawled under again and not seeing any leaks. It’s actually quite clean all over underneath the trucks entire driveline.

any certain place I should look?

i have a filter and gasket set I was planning to try tomorrow. Was figuring that while I had the pan off, maybe there’s other stuff I should just go ahead and replace...?

Thanks much!

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Okay, so this newbie finds that the trans code is MYC, and that means it’s 6L80 not 4L60...

i need to find in’s a great resource like this 4L60 reference for that. Guessing it’s similar but thanks and sorry for any time waste!
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6L80/90 are very different from 4L60E and 4L80E... take a closer look at your trans, it would be longer, pan should have a level check plug on the bottom, take a pic

6L80/90 is all electronic (i.e. TCM controls pressure to apply/release sides of clutch packs, unlike 4L60E/4L80E which use off-going component as accumulator for on-coming component).

Check for DTC's.
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Hello everyone. I have the 10th issue. But not allways. Today while i was cruising to another city i stopped at a gas station. After i started the car it doesn't shift to 1. 4. and OD. TCC is not locking. After i stop the car for 30 minutes it started to shift. After 15 minutes of running correctly it failed again. My transmission is brand new. It has only 320 miles on it. Using it with tci ez-tcu. I'm trying to understand what can be wrong for this trany. Thinking it can be an electrical problem. Don't know how to fix it. Don't know where is the fuse. Ez-tcu has batt error for once.
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This sounds like the trans is in limp mode and just staying in 3rd gear.
Unless the EZ-TCU sends OBDII scan codes or has other way of diagnosing problems, it will be difficult to help you.
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Originally Posted by mrvedit
This sounds like the trans is in limp mode and just staying in 3rd gear.
Unless the EZ-TCU sends OBDII scan codes or has other way of diagnosing problems, it will be difficult to help you.
well i figured it out. You were right it was on limp mode. Problem was becouse of electrical connection. Electric guy connected it wrong. Thank you!
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So I just bought this truck for my son. It only wants to shift at higher rpms. It won't shift if I let off the accelerator. It shifts hard from 1-2. From 2-3 had a weird shift like a rubber band stretching. Everything else was normal. Freeway speeds are fine, lock up is good, reverse is good. So I was gonna check the TPS but it's not a three wire plug that I can find all the info on for checking with meter. The TPS is riveted to the throttle body also. So I pulled the throttle body off and thoroughly cleaned it along with the MAF sensor. I drove it afterwards and my 1-2 is the same but now 2-3 is real sluggish and will slip. Any ideas before I pull this thing and have it rebuilt?!!!
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i read all of the above and it seems my problem might be the pump. I was driving to work yesterday in my 2004 GTO. i went to pass another car and all of a sudden the rpms shot up to 3k came back down and i had no power. i barely got it to the side of the road.The car starts but none of the gears work, just won't go. The car has a 3400 stall, trans-go shift kit and a tranny cooler. The car has 53k miles. I had the fluid changed about three months ago.I was hopeing someone might be able to give some opinions on what it could be before we tear into it. We have a 70 challenger that the hubby works on but knows nothing about my car and we are going to do as much as we can ourselves, wish us luck,lol. there was no codes.
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Both Myboystruck and passnfast should start your own threads, you may get more help that way.
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Thank you. Will do!
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Great thread.
I have a 73 Camaro with a 2005 GTO drivetrain, I'm using a Fitech controller to run the engine and trans and have a 2800 stall converter and 3.73 gears.
At about 50 to 55, the TC will unlock and lock back in, in a matter of a second or so, when it does, I can see in the data log that the mph spikes to like 124mph for a millisecond, any thoughts on that?
Also, any concerns running that stall speed with only a radiator trans cooler on the street?
Thanks
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Ok everyone that reads this thread from here on out...if you have an issue not already covered here...PLEASE start your own thread
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Originally Posted by silverado13
This thread went sticky on GMT400.com and has served people well so i will post it on here.



NOTE:The transmission is on the same fuse as the MAF, O2 sensors and at least one other sensor - if an O2 shorts out, it will blow the fuse and the trans will go into limp-home mode. Be sure the trans has power and the fuse is not blown before doing anything else.

Secondly, put a line pressure gauge ($55 shipped on Ebay, or visit a local trans shop) on the pressure test port and go for a drive to verify proper line pressure. Base pressure at idle in P,N,OD should be around 70psi and around 140psi in R. Max line pressure should be at least 190psi at WOT in 1st or 2nd, 225psi is optimum. If base pressure is low, trans or pump is worn out. If max pressure is low, check EPC solenoid. If reverse is slow to engage, and line pressure does not come up to at least 130psi in reverse, replace the boost valve with a Transgo 0.500" boost valve (easy fix in pan).

Beware of coolant contamination - coolant will cause clutch packs to delaminate and thus cost you a rebuild! Trans fluid eats radiator hoses! If you find any sign of cross contamination, fix the problem and thoroughly flush both systems IMMEDIATELY.

What is "limp-home mode" ? This is a fault mode in which the transmission either loses electrical power or the PCM deactivates all of the electronics. The transmission will default to max line pressure. The driver will have Reverse and 3rd, with manual 2nd available by putting the gearshift in 2 or 1 (doesn't matter). 1st, 4th, and TCC lockup will not be available. It will not hurt the car to drive it like this for short periods, but use manual 2nd to get the car moving, and be aware that the trans will generate more heat than normal while operating in limp-home mode due to increased torque converter slippage during 2nd gear starts and no lockup in 3rd gear.

R&R = Remove & Repair (or Rebuild) = Transmission must be removed to fix the problem and may have to be rebuilt or replaced.

Common failures on 4L60E, symptom < cause > any possible repair:
1. Slow, slipping or no reverse: “lo-reverse” clutches are worn out, fluid leak in the reverse apply circuit, or broken sunshell. It is possible to remedy a fluid problem by removing the checkball from its cage in the case in the rear of the trans may help (must remove valvebody), or adding a high-viscosity additive such as Lucas Transmission additive or other seal restorer product. May also have worn boost valve (can replace in the pan).
2. 1-2 shift does not happen at WOT until you let off the gas: Best case: try replacing the TPS. Middle case: leak in the 2nd gear apply circuit (servo assembly or 1-2 accumulator). Doublecheck by using the pressure gauge and watch for a big drop when the PCM commands 2nd gear. Worst case: poor line pressure rise (see below).
3. 1-2 Shift shudder at WOT; delayed or abnormal 1-2 shift; There's a problem ONLY on the 1-2 shift: 1-2 accumulator piston cracked or stuck cocked in the bore. Check the yellow spring inside the accum housing for breakage. Also, if the accumulator housing walls are scored, the housing must be replaced. Easy fix in the pan.
4. 1-2 shift is delayed and harsh, may not shift into OD: Check TPS for smooth and linear electrical response over the entire range of motion. If not, replace.
5. Trans does not upshift out of first, speedometer reads zero at all times: VSS failure. Easy fix on rear of transmission, but xmember must come out to access VSS.
6. No 3rd or 4th gear: “3-4” clutches are worn out. R&R. The car is safe to drive (in 2) until you can get it fixed.
7. Sudden grinding noise with no prior warning primarily in 2nd gear, behavior in reverse may be abnormal; sunshell is fractured. R&R. Try not to run or drive the car or further damage could result.
8. 1st and 3rd only, no 2,4 or R; sunshell is fractured or splines are sheared off. R&R. Try not to run or drive the car or further damage could result.
9. No 2nd or 4th gear. 2-4 band is slipping. Servo seals may be damaged (can be fixed without removing trans. Otherwise, 2-4 band is worn out. R&R.
10. Trans shifts into gear harshly, car feels sluggish off the line, No 1st, 4th or TCC lockup available, Manual 2nd, 3rd and Reverse are only available gears, CEL is on: Transmision is either in limp-home mode or has lost electrical power. If there are lots of error codes in the PCM, check the underhood fuse that powers the transmission, and if it pops again, look for a short in that circuit like an O2 sensor harness touching exhaust. Otherwise, check PCM codes for a particular fault in the transmission causing the PCM to put it in limp-home mode.
11. No 1st or 4th available; trans shifts 2nd to 3rd by itself in D or OD and locks the converter : ShiftA solenoid failed. Easy fix in the pan. Or a wiring problem from PCM to trans.. or PCM.
12. Car goes into gear but feels very sluggish like the brakes are dragging, but it will roll easily (starts out in 4th gear), you manually shift to 2 to get it moving, once it's moving you put it back in OD and the car shifts 3rd to 4th on its own and locks the converter at the appropriate time: ShiftB solenoid failed: Easy fix in the pan. Or a wiring problem from PCM to trans.. or PCM.
13. No TCC lockup: Brake pedal switches improperly adjusted (always on), TCC solenoid failed (easy fix in the pan), TCC clutch worn out (must remove trans and replace TC).
14. TCC always locked: TCC apply solenoid circuit shorted to ground, TCC solenoid blockage (easy fix in pan), or TC broken (must remove trans and replace TC).
15. Horrible noise in 4th and feels like the brakes are on: overrun clutches are applying due to a cracked or leaking forward piston. Overrun clutches will be worn out after 30 seconds of this behavior. Car can be safely driven in D. R&R.
16. Soft shifting, gradual performance degradation: Poor line pressure rise due to leaking boost valve, clogged EPC filter screen, failing EPC solenoid, or worst case: leaky seals throughout. Transgo HD2-C kit fixes first two without removing trans. Seal restorer may fix last problem, but probably R&R. Also try a transmission flush with BG brand products (Firestone stocks it).
17. No forward movement in OD or D, but L2, L1 and R work: Forward sprag is broken. R&R. Try not to run or drive the car or further damage could result.
18. Extremely harsh shifts from P or N, normal shifts at WOT: EPC (Electronic Pressure Control) solenoid failed. Easy fix in pan. Fix as soon as possible or hard parts will eventually break.
19. Loud bang, grinding sound, loss of all gears, and a binding driveshaft: snapped output shaft. Try to wiggle driveshaft - if more than 0.020" play, that's the sign. R&R.
20. Trans seems noisy when moving in 1st and Reverse, noise goes away instantly if you shift to N or the trans goes into 3rd gear: Reaction planetary is worn out due to high miles or insufficient lubrication. Not a critical failure, but not a good sign either. R&R sooner rather than later.
21. No movement in any gear: pump failure, or total loss of fluid. R&R, or refill pan and find the leak. If out of fluid, avoid running the engine until the trans is refilled to avoid pump damage. To check for pump failure, check fluid level with the engine off, then start the engine and recheck fluid level. If level does not go down when engine is running, the pump is broken.
22. Transmission does not shift automatically, only manually. Swap in a known-good PCM, check wiring, check other sensors such as VSS and TPS.
23. 3rd gear starts, can manually shift through all gears. When car has been turned off for a bit, then back on it will run normally.: VSS dropoff w/ Hi-stall converter. The rpms are too high, but VSS is showing no movement. Happens after a tire burning take-off. Doesn't store a code, will not throw a CEL (I've heard that it will store a code if it happens 3 or more times). Cure: Reprogram PCM for VSS dropoff -- PCMforLess knows about it.
24. Fluid leak out of the front of trans where the converter connects; partial or full loss of movement: Front pump bushing walked out. R&R. May have to replace converter also if hub is scored. Note that a leaking front seal usually means the bushing is walking out (i.e.

I am having an issue with my fresh rebuilt 01 4l60e hopefully you could assist. I pulled the trans from a 01 silverado to rebuild and replace the trans in my 04 avalanche. The only thing that wasnt replaced in the trans was the pressure switch ( shop decided to wait til they were done to tell me it wasnt in the kit). The issue I'm having is that the trans only has one or the other either 1st or 2nd hard to tell year and reverse. It will not shift but it did downshift once which leads me to believe its 2nd and reverse.
Could it be that all the solenoids and harness is for an 04 in a 01 trans or that the pressure switch is from an 01? I'm at a loss. Also when I unplug it does actually go into limp mode for the 3rd gear start so it seems like something is preventing the shift electronically.
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Tommy1987,

Please do the following:

#1. Delete the post you just made on this old thread, and start a new thread...
Kinda like what the guy who posted right before you said:

Originally Posted by MaroonMonsterLS1
PLEASE start your own thread
#2. Ask the people who rebuilt the transmission for you, what might be going on...
I have to assume that you paid for the work to be done.
I would expect a customer to contact my shop if this were the case.
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Default I have a problem 4L60e in a chevy 1500 95

It seems that i only have 1st 2nd and reverse and can only manual shift the automatic into second pls help
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A. Start your own thread and be 5x more descriptive
B. if you've lost 3rd and 4th gear, that's the most common failure for this transmission. the 3/4 clutch gets worn out and won't hold anymore.
C. Read the thread and see if anything matches your issues. If it does, you may already have your answer waiting for you.

Good luck,
Hope to see you in a fresh thread so we can help you out best.
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I agree with MaroonMonster and am therefore closing this 5 year old thread.
When starting your own thread, your post can always include a link to this thread.
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