4l60e EX Raptor level 5
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4l60e EX Raptor level 5 http://www.transmissioncenter.com/PA...sions_PATC.htm
Is anyone using this trans?
Any feedback on reliability, track time improvements etc please.
I know it's a bit expensive, but switching to 4l80 and all that it involves seems a long way round to solving my problems
Is anyone using this trans?
Any feedback on reliability, track time improvements etc please.
I know it's a bit expensive, but switching to 4l80 and all that it involves seems a long way round to solving my problems
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There are many ripoff reviews about PATC on the net. Here are a few:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/PATC-P...from-Ho-936397
http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/trans...uck-patcs.html
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...smissions.html
More complaints are not hard to find. Personally I would avoid them.
FinishLine Transmissions (FLT), RPM and Performabuilt are not only sponsors, but have excellent reputations.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/PATC-P...from-Ho-936397
http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/trans...uck-patcs.html
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...smissions.html
More complaints are not hard to find. Personally I would avoid them.
FinishLine Transmissions (FLT), RPM and Performabuilt are not only sponsors, but have excellent reputations.
Go with FLT, I have had their level 7 4l60 with a tbrake for 4-5 years now. About 12k miles, 50 track passes in the low 10s and high 9s and a million mexico runs on the highway. Still perfect.
Heres a review of the lvl 5 from another site. http://www.rgvtruckperformance.net/r...gear-for-4l60e
Not sure of other companies doing the 6 pinion planetary, I think FLT does both the Smart tech and 6 pinion but RPM does the smart tech drum only. Didn't see either on the performabuilt site. They might have that in there "black edition" trans but it says to call for info.
As far as bad reviews, everyone has them, google shows that. Just more people generally use these companies and most have a good experience.
Not sure of other companies doing the 6 pinion planetary, I think FLT does both the Smart tech and 6 pinion but RPM does the smart tech drum only. Didn't see either on the performabuilt site. They might have that in there "black edition" trans but it says to call for info.
As far as bad reviews, everyone has them, google shows that. Just more people generally use these companies and most have a good experience.
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The "6 pinion" planetary gives closer ratios for 1st and 2nd gear; I have the one that PATC used to sell; there were other sources for them. That unit has since been replaced by the Sonnax (rebuildable) close-ratio planetary. IIRC it costs about $600 and any of the sponsors can add it for that price. While I like the closer ratio gears, I saw no improvement at the track, but that will depend upon your engine, rear ratio, traction and other issues.
Based on posted and verbal feedback, PATC greatly over-promises and under-delivers.
Stick with the sponsors.
Based on posted and verbal feedback, PATC greatly over-promises and under-delivers.
Stick with the sponsors.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. Thought it seemed to good to be true!
I will look into the sponsors on here.
Due to shipping costs to UK and already having 2 perfectly good trans cases I would prefer to buy it in a kit form. Emailed PATC, no reply.
I will look into the sponsors on here.
Due to shipping costs to UK and already having 2 perfectly good trans cases I would prefer to buy it in a kit form. Emailed PATC, no reply.
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None of the sponsors sell "kits". Their "magic sauce" is their skill, care and adjustments during the assembly process.
If you really want a kit, contact ebay seller TruTechTrans.
These are very finicky transmissions to rebuild, especially for performance use.
If you really want a kit, contact ebay seller TruTechTrans.
These are very finicky transmissions to rebuild, especially for performance use.
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Update:
Looked at sponsors products, so far Performabuilt "black" looking favourite mainly due to not needing to return core and free shipping plus warranty. Will depend on final price.
They are all mega expensive.
Also looking at FTI converter SRLS 3800, any feedback on either of these products any body?
Looked at sponsors products, so far Performabuilt "black" looking favourite mainly due to not needing to return core and free shipping plus warranty. Will depend on final price.
They are all mega expensive.
Also looking at FTI converter SRLS 3800, any feedback on either of these products any body?
A 4L80E is not only a cheaper transmission to build, but cheaper. If you're willing to spend some cash like you have indicated, you are completely wasting your time with the 4L60E.
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These very expensive 4L65E are best for e.g. a C5 or other vehicle that is specifically built for that trans and/or is very tight on space. Lots of members here have swapped a 4L80E into their Gen 4 Camaros. Not trivial, but relatively few mods are needed to make the space.