Automatic Transmission 2-Speed thru 10-Speed GM Autos | Converters | Shift Kits
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

? On a prndl switch

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 14, 2016 | 10:53 PM
  #1  
Gksportster's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 103
Likes: 3
Default ? On a prndl switch

Hello I'm getting a psi wire harness har1014 and I talked to psi and I asked if the wire harness had the wires for the prndl switch and they said no and I don't need the switch I'm using a 4l65e 04 ish transmission. And it's dbw

Do I need the prndl switch for the transmission to work right?

I have a b&m shifter that has a neutral safety switch on it .
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2016 | 08:32 AM
  #2  
wht/73's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 518
Likes: 0
From: North Jersey
Default

I have a compushift 1 and when you put the trans in gear it tells the controller what gear its in.
I'm assuming your Talking about the black box on the driver side .
You do need it if you want to run the neutral safety and rev lights off of it tho
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2016 | 09:18 PM
  #3  
Gksportster's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 103
Likes: 3
Default

Originally Posted by wht/73
I have a compushift 1 and when you put the trans in gear it tells the controller what gear its in.
I'm assuming your Talking about the black box on the driver side .
You do need it if you want to run the neutral safety and rev lights off of it tho
Yes that is what im talking about
My b&m shifter has the light switch and safety switch.
So I know in turning the motor it has charts for in gear and in park .
So what has every one done on a stand alone harness for the tune if you are not using that switch ? Since it sounds like they delete it for the stand alone

Thank you Kelly
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2016 | 06:33 AM
  #4  
mrvedit's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7,323
Likes: 529
From: Ann Arbor, MI
Default

As mentioned, the "black box" only implements the Park/Neutral safety switch and controls the Reverse lights. Nothing else - IT DOES NOT tell the PCM what gear the shifter is in. The 4L60E internally determines if the shifter is in [D1], [D2], [D3] or [OD] and tells the PCM through the trans wiring harness.

BTW - I also have the B&M shifter and no "black box".
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2016 | 07:26 AM
  #5  
bigdaddy350's Avatar
On The Tree
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
From: New Franklin, OH
Default

So just to hijack, If I am running a GM PCM with a 4L80E and, say a B&M shifter with micro switches for R and Neutral safety, do i "need" the "black box"?
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2016 | 09:04 PM
  #6  
mrvedit's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7,323
Likes: 529
From: Ann Arbor, MI
Default

Since the 4L80E also signals the shifter position to the PCM via the internal harness, it also will not need the "black box".
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:43 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE