4l60e versus 4l80e
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Don't know if the tunnels are similar but the 4L80 fit in my '55 210 sedan with room to spare. It's behind a 6.0
No modification necessary other than cutting the old bell housing/frame mounts off that were still in there.
No modification necessary other than cutting the old bell housing/frame mounts off that were still in there.
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Yes thanks
Anyone running an 80e with standalone controller???
Just toying with the idea of fitech/msd/pcs setup.
Don't think I'd really do it .... just like the idea of all standalone controllers... not worrying about ecm flashes and software compatability and $400 ECM tunes
Anyone running an 80e with standalone controller???
Just toying with the idea of fitech/msd/pcs setup.
Don't think I'd really do it .... just like the idea of all standalone controllers... not worrying about ecm flashes and software compatability and $400 ECM tunes
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How do you like the setup .... stock 6.0 ?
Yes thanks
Anyone running an 80e with standalone controller???
Just toying with the idea of fitech/msd/pcs setup.
Don't think I'd really do it .... just like the idea of all standalone controllers... not worrying about ecm flashes and software compatability and $400 ECM tunes
Anyone running an 80e with standalone controller???
Just toying with the idea of fitech/msd/pcs setup.
Don't think I'd really do it .... just like the idea of all standalone controllers... not worrying about ecm flashes and software compatability and $400 ECM tunes
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yup, running the TCI EZ-TCU. It was a little difficult to get the PCM reading VSS signal since the TCU need to be plugged into the VSS sensor, but Dakota Digital makes a converter. The only downside is there is a slight lag with the speed signal. But other than that I've been happy with how it performs. I still need to configure it a bit as it seems to lockup TCC and unlock TCC frequently while cruising around town, I usually just manually control it with a switch I installed anyways.
I thought if I went with a full standalone TCU I'd go standalone efi ....fitech ...... and ignition..... MSD
Saw a nice looking 6.0 block without harness and ECM..... for an OK price is what had me thinking a little more that route ....... but not sure..... decisions decisions
Good to know the EZ TCU works OK for you ......
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Wife walked in with her sexy stuff on whilst I was look looking at this ...... was a really confusing moment ....*jk*
Good cclearance to front panel on side?
Support for turbo ?
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Nice.
I used to run twin turbos on my cummins truck. Was a blast to drive - but they made prefabbed kits and there was room to run them on on top of other without too much drama and tie into normal single exhaust back.
I used to run twin turbos on my cummins truck. Was a blast to drive - but they made prefabbed kits and there was room to run them on on top of other without too much drama and tie into normal single exhaust back.
yeah, basically left stock PCM alone, and changed transmission to manual in HPtuners.
If you're starting from scratch full standalone would be the way to go. Being In California for me with a California registered car I have to abide by all the commiefornian laws
. So I didn't want to risk flashing to a truck firmware on my PCM to control the 4l80e... also I want paddle shifters 
If you're starting from scratch full standalone would be the way to go. Being In California for me with a California registered car I have to abide by all the commiefornian laws
. So I didn't want to risk flashing to a truck firmware on my PCM to control the 4l80e... also I want paddle shifters So using the ECM for ignition and timing and fueling?
I thought if I went with a full standalone TCU I'd go standalone efi ....fitech ...... and ignition..... MSD
Saw a nice looking 6.0 block without harness and ECM..... for an OK price is what had me thinking a little more that route ....... but not sure..... decisions decisions
Good to know the EZ TCU works OK for you ......
I thought if I went with a full standalone TCU I'd go standalone efi ....fitech ...... and ignition..... MSD
Saw a nice looking 6.0 block without harness and ECM..... for an OK price is what had me thinking a little more that route ....... but not sure..... decisions decisions
Good to know the EZ TCU works OK for you ......
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Paddle shifters would be cool.
I think for my truck look I want to go retro on shifter though ...... something like
https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/...160e9c5a_z.jpg
but on a shorter shifter
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/lok-ats64l80bn
Would you use TCI-EZ ECU again ?? ......... I was looking at PCS
https://www.powertraincontrolsolutio...ller/TCM-2300/
I think for my truck look I want to go retro on shifter though ...... something like
https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/...160e9c5a_z.jpg
but on a shorter shifter
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/lok-ats64l80bn
Would you use TCI-EZ ECU again ?? ......... I was looking at PCS
https://www.powertraincontrolsolutio...ller/TCM-2300/
Paddle shifters would be cool.
I think for my truck look I want to go retro on shifter though ...... something like
https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/...160e9c5a_z.jpg
but on a shorter shifter
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/lok-ats64l80bn
Would you use TCI-EZ ECU again ?? ......... I was looking at PCS
https://www.powertraincontrolsolutio...ller/TCM-2300/
I think for my truck look I want to go retro on shifter though ...... something like
https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/...160e9c5a_z.jpg
but on a shorter shifter
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/lok-ats64l80bn
Would you use TCI-EZ ECU again ?? ......... I was looking at PCS
https://www.powertraincontrolsolutio...ller/TCM-2300/
4L60E to 4L80E.....affect on 1/4 mile times.
You know what I can do. I get back home from the Middle East in November. I will drive to Moroso Motorsports Park and run the 1/4 mile a couple times with my N/A 390ci. Then I will drive back and have my 4L80E installed. probably take 2 weeks because my installer can only work on my car on the weekends at the Chrysler dealer he works at.
Then I will go back and run the 1/4 mile again...
We'll see what it does in a set up where ALL ELSE will be be kept the same except the tranny swap.
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You know what I can do. I get back home from the Middle East in November. I will drive to Moroso Motorsports Park and run the 1/4 mile a couple times with my N/A 390ci. Then I will drive back and have my 4L80E installed. probably take 2 weeks because my installer can only work on my car on the weekends at the Chrysler dealer he works at.
Then I will go back and run the 1/4 mile again...
We'll see what it does in a set up where ALL ELSE will be be kept the same except the tranny swap.
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This thread shows the dyno numbers before and after a 4L60E to 4L80E swap - ONLY 6HP was lost.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...questions.html
And the actual weights without a converter:
4L60e = 137 lbs
4L80e = 178 lbs
While the 4L80E case fits many vehicles, the swap sometimes requires hammering a space for the electrical connector and/or cooling lines.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...questions.html
And the actual weights without a converter:
4L60e = 137 lbs
4L80e = 178 lbs
While the 4L80E case fits many vehicles, the swap sometimes requires hammering a space for the electrical connector and/or cooling lines.
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Interesting thread.
Not sure how to read the dyno in terms of "shifts" though. Good to know if setup your not going to lose HP or anything significant due to rotational mass ..... just dont know what it does in terms of say staying in 1st longer ....... or a drop in RPM thats too significant .... would think that would show up in the dyno graph .... but not sure how to read it ....from that standpoint
Not sure how to read the dyno in terms of "shifts" though. Good to know if setup your not going to lose HP or anything significant due to rotational mass ..... just dont know what it does in terms of say staying in 1st longer ....... or a drop in RPM thats too significant .... would think that would show up in the dyno graph .... but not sure how to read it ....from that standpoint
Interesting thread.
Not sure how to read the dyno in terms of "shifts" though. Good to know if setup your not going to lose HP or anything significant due to rotational mass ..... just dont know what it does in terms of say staying in 1st longer ....... or a drop in RPM thats too significant .... would think that would show up in the dyno graph .... but not sure how to read it ....from that standpoint
Not sure how to read the dyno in terms of "shifts" though. Good to know if setup your not going to lose HP or anything significant due to rotational mass ..... just dont know what it does in terms of say staying in 1st longer ....... or a drop in RPM thats too significant .... would think that would show up in the dyno graph .... but not sure how to read it ....from that standpoint