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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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I really need a stall for my car. I've been searching around the FS section and have found two that I think will work well w/ my setup on 3.42 gears. They are...

Vigilante 3200 stall converter, less then 3000 miles on it. = $300

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midwest 3400 stall torque converter with nitrous antiballooning plates for an LS1 (300$)

The words that throw me off on the midwest are the nitrous antiballooning plates. Does anyone have any info on those? What are those plates referring to? Can it be run w/o nitrous?

Any suggestions from anyone out there. Are those any good?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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For that money I would rather a brand new Fuddle 3200. Only $75 more with their special offers and u get full replacement warranty.

The VIG is a good unit, don't get me wrong. But you sound hesitant about converters esp. with the nitrous comment so you don't want to be buying someone elses problems.

However, if it was out of those 2, I would go the VIG.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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i agree and get a new one.
if i was to chose, i also would get the vig
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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I'd buy the vig if you know the seller or are certain that it wasn't abused or from a tranny that died.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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3200 did not do it for me. I had to go higher.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Yank SS 3600
A vig 3200 stalls and performs similar to your Yank SS 3600
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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I would go for the Vig... they are a very reliable converter. It may still be under warrenty... check on that too. PI gives you a 2 yr warrenty on their verts
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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I haven't heard of fuddle until very recently. Have they been around for a while? They seem to be the cheapest. That makes me a little curious. How can they afford to sell them so cheap?
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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i have the vig. 3200 and wish i had gone to a 4000+
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by reocamaro
I haven't heard of fuddle until very recently. Have they been around for a while? They seem to be the cheapest. That makes me a little curious. How can they afford to sell them so cheap?
The guys who make Fuddle converters have been making them for 20 years.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Go with the Vig, I have the 3200 and couldnt be happier. I lost about 1 mph over my old Midwest 3400, but my ET dropped 2-3 tenths. I have a full weight car, on motor I cut 1.58-1.61 60' with the Vig. I was doing 1.69-1.75 with the Midwest. The Vig loves the gas too.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by reocamaro
I haven't heard of fuddle until very recently. Have they been around for a while? They seem to be the cheapest. That makes me a little curious. How can they afford to sell them so cheap?
I am surprised John has not already PM'ed you... heheh. Great guy, shoot him a PM 1jfuddle is his username.

BTW we have a Fuddle 3400/2.2 STR
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Another vote for the Vig. I would try to talk to the seller to make sure there are no problems. If it checks out I don't think you can beat it for the price. I had a 3200 Vig in my 01 and it never gave me one problem and put up some great 60 ft and 1/4 mile times for the limited amount of mods I had. I am going to be ordering a Vig 3600 for my 02 in just a few days.
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