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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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I have a 98 TA WS6 with Pace Setter Long Tubes, Cats Removed, Pace Setter Y Pipe, Flowmaster, K&N Filter, Cold Air Lid. I am thinking about putting a Cam in however I'm not sure whether or not I should get a converter first. The car will need to remain somewhat steetable, I would still like to be able to drive 55 miles to work in the summer somewhat often. Any thoughts and help would be much appreciated.
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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TC first for sure. It is ok to drive around a stock cam with a big stall, but a big cam and a stock stall no way.
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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Converter first. If you do the cam first it won't be very streetable.
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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I went to the track a couple weeks ago, it seemed like I had a hard time hooking up. I have BFG KDW tires but I left them at regular driving pressure. Should I be reducing my tire pressure at the track? Also, if I got a converter wouldn't it be even harder to hook up?
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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Converter first, it really brings out the auto.
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Do the TC 1st. However when you do the cam make sure it (the cam) matches the TC/gears.
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yes what was said above, couldn't have said it better myself
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Converter then cam.......BUT choose the cam you want first, that will tell you what size stall you need to pick.
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Converter for sure.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mz6j3y
I went to the track a couple weeks ago, it seemed like I had a hard time hooking up. I have BFG KDW tires but I left them at regular driving pressure. Should I be reducing my tire pressure at the track? Also, if I got a converter wouldn't it be even harder to hook up?
on my 235/75/15's on the cadillac, I dropped the pressure to around 25, which worked pretty good, but down to about 20 and theyhooked better, but the top end was a bit squirly, so I bumped it back up a bit. on DR's, as low as 15 could be optimail, but most do 18ish.

*Back on topic* These guys have it on the money. even a stock torque cammed caprice will like a 3000, and love a 3400 stall. A guy I talked with was telling me about his racing. He gained .1 going from a stock caprice cam to a zz3 cam, and then .5 from a 2800 convertor.

Convertor then cam. but like stated pick the convertor and gears to work with the cam you want. research, and buy once.
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Thanks for all of the good information, it looks like I will need to get a TC first. Im thinking about somewhere around 3000 - 3200 stall? What would I ecpect making this switch? I have never driven a car with an after market TC before?
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I'm thinking about getting a gm847 cam whats a good stall for that cam....
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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i just installed a yank ss3600 and I love it yes its my dd and im young but i love the drive now it woke the car up ALOT. I have been wondering what it would be like with a bit bigger stall but i think for a dd its perfect and with a cam it would work well id imagine but as the other guys say make sure you plan your mods to work together or you'll be buying and selling parts liek a swop meet.
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I'm thinking about getting a gm847 cam whats a good stall for that cam....
4000+ thats a big cam.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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damn a 3500 wouldn't work good???
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Originally Posted by onebadblackz
damn a 3500 wouldn't work good???
It would work, but not as good as a 4000+ . Specs on that cam are something like 234/242 .539"/.558" 112 right?
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Stall first without a doubt.
I think we have almost identical cars....
Mine 98 ws-6 pacesetters, off road y, mti lid , e cut out and a tci 3200
I love the way my car feels now after the stall..
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whats a good cam for a 3200 or 3500 stall.... I want something aggressive like the gm847
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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on more thing I have my TC on a switch because its a B&M 700R4/4L60 tranny... do i just leave the switch on all the time???
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