Which is lighter? 4l60e vs T56
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Which is lighter? 4l60e vs T56 Accoridng to the corvette forum, the 4l60e is roughly 460lbs, and the six speed T56 is right under 500lbs. Thats motor and tranny combination.
Now, ive R & R'd alot of T56's in f bodies, and alot of A4's..... and i know for damn sure that a six speed is lighter by feel. i can lift a six speed by myself into a car on a lift, an auto i surely cannot.
So whats the truth, which tranny is lighter, A4 or T56?
EDIT: Forgot to mention, speaking about a corvette.
Now, ive R & R'd alot of T56's in f bodies, and alot of A4's..... and i know for damn sure that a six speed is lighter by feel. i can lift a six speed by myself into a car on a lift, an auto i surely cannot.
So whats the truth, which tranny is lighter, A4 or T56?
EDIT: Forgot to mention, speaking about a corvette.
I think that you answered your own question.
I am no Heman, but I have done a Chrysler 42RE with the transfer case still bolted up by myself. It was fun to wrestle it in, had it out 3 times by myself and put it back in by myself, Jeep was on jackstands.
I am no Heman, but I have done a Chrysler 42RE with the transfer case still bolted up by myself. It was fun to wrestle it in, had it out 3 times by myself and put it back in by myself, Jeep was on jackstands.
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Originally Posted by mullenh
i have always seen data with the 6 speed heavier too. i think that it is true.
But what part of it makes it heavier, like i have picked them both up, the six speed is noticeably lighter. Im just wondering if there is something they are including as part of the tranny that you wouldnt normally include in the weight when you think about it.....
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I've always seen that curb weights were higher in autos. One thing to keep in mind, like Black Hawk T/A brought up, a loaded torque converter is going to out wiegh a clutch, so that could make the difference.
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460? how? mine is only 130, thats minus the front and tail housings and converter......but i dont' think those 3 things could account for 330 lbs. Where are these numbers coming from?
front + rear housing no more than ~60 lbs
converter ~ 30 lbs
fluid ~ 30 lbs
another 50 lbs for stuff i didnt' consider
130+ 60 + 30 + 30 + 50 = 300 lbs.
I still don't see 450+ lbs.........
converter ~ 30 lbs
fluid ~ 30 lbs
another 50 lbs for stuff i didnt' consider
130+ 60 + 30 + 30 + 50 = 300 lbs.
I still don't see 450+ lbs.........
Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
front + rear housing no more than ~60 lbs
converter ~ 30 lbs
fluid ~ 30 lbs
another 50 lbs for stuff i didnt' consider
130+ 60 + 30 + 30 + 50 = 300 lbs.
I still don't see 450+ lbs.........
converter ~ 30 lbs
fluid ~ 30 lbs
another 50 lbs for stuff i didnt' consider
130+ 60 + 30 + 30 + 50 = 300 lbs.
I still don't see 450+ lbs.........
Originally Posted by mullenh
it doesn not weigh 450 where did you get that? the engine trans combo is less than 500 lbs dry
try reading the first post maybe.
anyway i'm saying thats way too heavy.
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
try reading the first post maybe.
anyway i'm saying thats way too heavy.
"Thats motor and tranny combination."
Not to mention the question is about a CORVETTE. Not an F-body.
Originally Posted by Enthusiast
I think you need to read the first post again.
"Thats motor and tranny combination."
Not to mention the question is about a CORVETTE. Not an F-body.
"Thats motor and tranny combination."
Not to mention the question is about a CORVETTE. Not an F-body.
Corvette motor/trans = F-body motor/trans.
Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
front + rear housing no more than ~60 lbs
converter ~ 30 lbs
fluid ~ 30 lbs
another 50 lbs for stuff i didnt' consider
130+ 60 + 30 + 30 + 50 = 300 lbs.
I still don't see 450+ lbs.........
converter ~ 30 lbs
fluid ~ 30 lbs
another 50 lbs for stuff i didnt' consider
130+ 60 + 30 + 30 + 50 = 300 lbs.
I still don't see 450+ lbs.........
Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
try reading the first post maybe.
anyway i'm saying thats way too heavy.
Originally Posted by mullenh
I did read it. Did you? It says motor and transmission weigh 450 lbs. That is accurate or very close for the combo you need to ad the motor into your calculation.
ok now keep going....oh i covered it already.
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Haha, I was about to start slappin people, then I remembered you guys are talkin about LS1's (aluminum = lighter than the big iron pontiacs I work worth) I was scratchin my head goin "Less than 500???" Haha, I had a "wet" engine/trans combo make my 3/4 ton squat an inch or two. I guess this is a result of workin to late, then reading the forums. And, c'mon guys we all know that the vette = f-body. Question we should all have asked by know is this- VENGANCE what year of vette are you talkin about? LT1 vette = iron block, LS1 vette = aluminum block...all the difference