I just bought a tsp231/239 cam. I really dont want to get a stall for it because i really just drive the car on the streets and am not as interested as putting up the numbers at the track. Most people say that I will definatley need to run one though. Do I really have to???

 

NO you do not need one but your car will run like ***,I would go with a 4000 stall and a trans cooler,good luck

 

With a big cam you want a higher stall converter for few reasons:

1- To keep the engine in the RPM range where your new cam makes the most power while at WOT..
2 – With a bigger cam you will have to raise you’re idle. That cam will idle well at ~800rpm or so. With the stock converter and that idle rpm your car will always be trying to pull away while you are stopped at a light.
Put the cam in and see how you like it. You can always go with a 2800rpm stall later.


John

 

you are going to wish you had done the stall first. it is more important than the cam.

 

I have a 4000 stall and my car rarely sees the track. Get a converter.....they are so much fun on the street. You won't regret it.

 

Coming from a guy that ran a decent sized cam on the stock converter for awhile, it CAN be done but it's a royal pain in the *** to drive & I'd never do it again. Even raising the idle to 700rpm (your cam will want 800-850) will pull against the brakes like a *****....feels like you're constantly powerbraking it. You'll have to put it in neutral every time you come to a stop. Your car will be no faster than stock until you reach ~3000rpm and then it'll take off. With a 3500ish stall, your car will be A TON more fun to drive on the street, it's manners at idle will be 100% better, and you'll be a lot faster. Get a converter, you'll regret it if you don't---trust me.

 

Assuming you have a LS1, even stock cars benefit from a stall, mid 3000 will give you the best of both worlds.

 

Its all a matched package...stall, cam, gears...most converter companies recommend a stall thats 500-700 rpm below the torque peak...

--Alan

 

echo

4000 stall here..

 

Get a stall, your brakes will thank you.

 

All you need is a 2800-3000 stall, if your just going to be on the street with your car. No need to get a 4000 stall.

 

JNorris is correct

 

I drove around cam only with no stall for a year. It sucked, not just holding it at a stop but braking distance was longer because of the car wanting to 'go', it didn't run too much faster because it took me forever to get in the powerband with a stock stall. If you do a cam without it, well, its pretty much a waste. I drive my car about 20k a year with a 3500 stall, no problems. I do wish my exhaust wasn't so loud though!!

 

i just had a vig 3600 installed. what a difference over my shitty MW conv. its still very streetable even on my H/C setup.


get a bigger stall. youll love it.

 

You'll will love the big stall. I have a SS w/ stock stall and my formy has a 4k yank and there's not much different in driveability. I have a tight TC and it drive great on the street. When you do go to the track you'll love it even more.

 

I know what he is talking about and everyword is true. right now my car is up in the air getting stalled , i just have a hot cam and stoping sucks, if i were you I would call one of the sponcers and tell them what you have in your car and what you want to do with it, they won't steer you wrong and niether would I, go at least 3500+ more like 4000 though .

 

Love my SS4000