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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Oh ok sounds good, any other tips or sugg are greatly appriciated
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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A borg warner Dual cage input sprag is something you could suggest to him. Again do not cost alot. Cant really think of much else without getting into bigger money and you wanted to stay in a budget, There are literally dozens of things you could add but if this is just a for now trans I think it sounds like you have pretty much what you need. I would replace the PCS (presure control soleniod) If he dosent allready plan to.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 03:49 AM
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Chip? like a potato chip? lol
You mean 1320 motorsport? That's cheap for a gm build, hook me up Im in Cali.lol
600rwhp is going to take more tranny build than that and a 2500 stall is nothing, if your going to spend money on a TC go with a higher stall than that. If your going to stay NA for a while than go with something like a 3000- 3200 stall or higher if you plan on gears.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:13 AM
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I think you should wait (if at all possible) and continue doing your research like you are here. To make a reliable 600rwhp is going to cost you a good chunk of change. Just to give you an idea it usually costs at least $5000 to reach that number, and thats with used parts. Now if you want your car to hold and efficiently use those numbers you are going to have to add at least another $5000 to the pot. Do your homework now and save yourself a lot of trouble later on. I know a lot of us here remember when we were in your shoes and just starting to mod our cars. Thinking about getting chips, and making 1000hp daily drivers. Then after you start to read into things you realize a good tuner is better than a chip, and that 1000hp is a number that only a handfull ever reach (most sit in that 300-500hp comfort zone)

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Get the strongest 4l60e/4l65e transmission possible. Based on what you said the extra $1000 you spend will be worth it in the long run. I also would not get a converter under 3000. In the long run you will probably want more out of it.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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thanks for all the help guys. See this is the situation: this is my daily driver and I broke it. Im buying a house and opening a new business so i dont want to spend to much on the car right now...so i wanted something temporary. Im waiting for the new camaro then im really going to start serious mods on my TA since it will no longer be a DD, but as for right now I just want to start doing bolt ons and such.... So i need to fix the tranny regardless just dont know now with all the feedback to just go normal tranny rebuilt or actually upgrade some minor stuff and get a little better stall...
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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also im thinking later on i can sell the stall and tranny once i upgrade.....
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BLOWN SS/T
Chip? like a potato chip? lol
You mean 1320 motorsport? That's cheap for a gm build, hook me up Im in Cali.lol
600rwhp is going to take more tranny build than that and a 2500 stall is nothing, if your going to spend money on a TC go with a higher stall than that. If your going to stay NA for a while than go with something like a 3000- 3200 stall or higher if you plan on gears.
ha ha yeah i heard doritos give it about 25hp to the wheels..jk... Yeah i know its cheap and its at a local GM dealership with a guy that knows what hes doing. ANd i heard anything bigger than 2500 will be to much for the tranny and not to great without a bigger cam
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Sounds like a Plan . while I agree that it would be better if you could wait and just get the trans you need to start with. But I also understand the need ca now and budget thing too Been there done that a few times in my life. But yes if it works well you could probably sell it and recoupe some of your money particularly if you have a freind needing that trans whos on a budget to when the time comes. Good luck and holler if you need anything.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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so this is the plan.....hughes22-25 stall,tranny cooler, TranGo shift kit, Kevlar heavy duyt band, BUT i don know wether to go eagle reds or Rebestas Blue Devil Klutch....I heard the blue devils are better??
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by performabuilt
Sounds like a Plan . while I agree that it would be better if you could wait and just get the trans you need to start with. But I also understand the need ca now and budget thing too Been there done that a few times in my life. But yes if it works well you could probably sell it and recoupe some of your money particularly if you have a freind needing that trans whos on a budget to when the time comes. Good luck and holler if you need anything.
thanx.. and i will def look into getting a tranny from you when i swap it out
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Thanks and good luck with getting it up and going. Have a great day!
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thanx.. and i will def look into getting a tranny from you when i swap it out
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratchthed
"redindian klutch" --- Translation please. I can't recall anything close to that description... sorry. Maybe an Alto Red Eagle clutch? If so we do not run them as they are too thin, do not take the heat nor high H/P well in our experience.

Which "shift kit"

What power output are you looking at short term.. and then long term. Realistic H/P numbers is what we are looking for here. Earlier in this discussion you were talking somewhere around 600 H/P, a 2500 rpm stall converter is not going to do the job. You would need something around 3400- 3800.

An auxillary cooler is always a good idea in a performance application.

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sorry yeah red eagle:misunderstood him...with a tranny cooler and transgo shift kit... but dont know wether to go red eagle or rebestas blue devil?
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by performabuilt
Thanks and good luck with getting it up and going. Have a great day!
hate to bug but what would you recomend red eagle or blue devil
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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I would recommend you use the Borg Warner heavy duty clutches. They are the same ones found in the highest of horsepower 4L60E's.

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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I like the borg warner mentioned and the raybestos high energy myself . And both are generally costly than the two you mentioned.
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hate to bug but what would you recomend red eagle or blue devil
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratchthed
I would recommend you use the Borg Warner heavy duty clutches. They are the same ones found in the highest of horsepower 4L60E's.

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arent borg warner the stock ones?
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Indeed they are stock clutches. A big misconception is the problem with these transmissionsi is the clutch material itself. That is not the case. The transmission is made more durable by paying close attention to the timing of the shifts, line pressure control, eliminating excessive clearances and so on.

If the Borg Warner Heavy Duty clutches are set up properly they are actually more desireable... and that is why they are the choice of many high end builders out there... not to mention the engineers who designed the unit in the first place.

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Yeah I think everyone has been down that road before, as a matter a fact I'm walking down it right now, trying not to run through it though. lol

If this is your DD and with what you mentioned I think you should just go ahead and have that guy do the rebuild. Do the little upgrades that were mentioned, it'll cost alittle bit more but will be worth it down the line. As for the HP thing, do alittle more research on here, and you will get alot more info on than what you need.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Oh and for the TC anything under 2500 stall and you'll probaly be dissapointed and wish you would have gone bigger. There are plenty of stall's higher, that will work with your stock cam and gears (hope you have atleast 3.23's) and still be streetable. Really depends on the STR. Oh and get a trans cooler like a bm 24k.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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well i did want to go bigger but all local people i have talked to did not recomend it, even some guys that drives a 2002 TA running 590 hp on the bottle said that would be perfect, thats what he has on his car. I went with the raybestos blue, transgo shift kit, got a tranny cooler, kevlar heavy duty band, and so i think it will come out good but im kinda unsure about the stall....
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