Ummm I dont see how windtunnel or a 7 post is a disallowed or unfair advantage.. Haas/hendrick will have their own windtunnel by years end.. they along with everysingle major team has had a 7 post for quite sometime now...The huge aero advantages are GONE.... its all up to suspension geometry,what limited area there is as well a the guy holding the steering wheel...Im not going to argue the financial aspect.... but then again Hendrick Roush Penske RCR arent running out of money anytime soon....its racing not the spread of communisum...

 

Well your right about one thing . There's not a dime's worth of difference between cup car's of tomorrow except the engines and the front bumper decals . What a waste ! If that's not the biggest crock of **** . In old school days it was all about the CARS man . Not those cry babies that drive em . Hell , today the drivers seem to be unable to control themselves during the last five or ten laps and continuously wreak everybody else . I mean **** , its like that at every fu*kin race . They never have a green flag finish anymore . Nascar has ruined stock car racing ! If Dave Dispain could speak off the record he would agree and so would a lot of other people !

 

Yes, the 7 poster statement was a bad example, but dosen't NASCAR have a stated limit for wind tunnel useage (just like actual track testing), even if they cannot patrol/enforce it???! I always thought this was part of their cost cutting measures to allow the poorer teams at least a minute chance?
Also, can't they still use the tunnels to test/see how the aero is affected/effected with different bump stops/suspension settings, etc.???

You honestly think that their unlimited funds/resources had nothing at all to do with them (TOY teams) finding up to an additional 35 hp over ALL of the domestic teams (EVEN the "best" ones)????!!!!
IF you do there is a really pretty bridge about 20 miles from here you might be interested in buying?
Yes, the big domestic teams are not "running out of money anytime soon", but they still do not have 1/1000th of the possible budget, input, disposable income, available engineering staffs, etc. that the TOY teams have available to them.

 

You're right about Dave.
He's already gone on record as HATING spec series with mandated identical powerplants/chassis (like in the U.S. open wheel series, whatever it's to be called now).
He's gone on record to say that some of the greatest innovations have come about from Indy's past when there was A LOT of leeway/room for free thought allowed in the rules!!

Sorry, but spec series (like NASCAR is quickly becoming, and TOY has a way of forcing) SUCK for top level professional motorsports!!!

 

the 20-30 hp over the competitors is a bs claim..

 

Or isn't it?

 

So Mikey really is a liar??

He blatantly (and proudly for his TOY, I might add) claimed 30 more hp for the TOYS last night on Inside NASCAR.

 

No, there isnt or shouldnt be a ban or limit on windtunnel testing,there shouldnt be a ban or limit on race track testing its auctually cheaper than 7 post or wind tunnel time( I know this as fact) Windtunnel testing dosent have anything to do with suspension the attitude of the car is minuplated while the car is blown.. 7 post SIMULATES track conditions although is not always backed up on a track..The cheapest and best way to test is renting a track and testing auctual set ups,just because the laptop says its best it isnt always the case...Auctual testing would benifit the smaller teams atleast the ones that are left...more than simulation testing

The Hp claim is narrower than belived....Chevys new R07 runs very well hopefully Ford will get a new package in 09 or 10 And Dodge is doing well...Toyota didnt find more Hp they brought it to the party and like others they make it better constantly....Its not much different than what GM did with the Caddys and C5R's Came in kicked everyones *** and had the others crying foul...

 

YUP----------------------------[Despain] [no capital S]

 

Yes, I know.
I used the correct version in latter posts.

 

In less time than it takes GM to get the Camaro built. Chrysler will be building the next generation Nissan Trucks.

Jakes Dad

 

Isn't that wild. I guess when you think about it, Chrysler used Mitsu engines and owned a big junk of Mitsu for a long while. So its not that big of a stretch, with the Chrysler/Nismo thing. Whats funny is the Engineers at Nissan think so little of Chrysler and any other OEM besides Toyota and Honda.