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FRiCK 07-08-2011 10:41 AM

So... I'm supposed to race a Mach 1 tonight...
 
Me: mods in sig.... 419/396

Him: 03' mach 1, longtubes, no cats, cutback, intake, EWP, Crower stage 2 cams, tuned, 3.73 gears.... 348/331


Discuss...

Quick Sh0t xMLx 07-08-2011 10:44 AM

I think you'll win because Vs are the shit:D

It should be a close race either way. Your car makes more power but it might as well have a turret on top compared to his weight:nod:

vmapper 07-08-2011 10:45 AM

there is nothing to discuss...
So how much $$ do you want to earn tonight?

it wont be close..
a) its the lame 4.6L.
b) its a 5 speed


its roughly 400 lbs less... so 40 hp difference

the V has that 40 and extra and then 30 more to spare - that alone is noticeable pull away power, has 6 speed, has 3.73, has a stronger rpm curve...

I guess the last question to ask is ... how heavy / skinny is the Mach driver and are you 450lbs? lol

FRiCK 07-08-2011 10:47 AM

Well... He's VERY confident in his car, like too confident. Lol

Im not really stressing either way, just seeing what y'all thought. All my mustang buddies are saying the same thing. Lol

I told dude, either way you're fucked, it's a Cadillac. Lol

vmapper 07-08-2011 10:58 AM

typical mustang owners...(roll the eyes)

the best was pre-SVT development team morons (2002) when ford just could not get it together and severely over-rated their engines...
1996 cobra - rated 305 - dynoed 254 - overrated
1999 TA - rated 320 - dynoed 302. - underrated

it was never close...
then they decided svt 'fire everyone in 2002' and hired a bunch of new guys lets do a 2003 ... cobra . forge everything, we dont know what we are doing, throw a blower on there.. do all we can to finally beat something...
yet the sales flock to the ford anyways... i dont know..
EASY beat from a roll...

bring home a trophy!
I would be more worried about a new 5.0L than those mach1s...

Ekshail 07-08-2011 10:58 AM

Get a vid on it. Would love to see the 'Lac walk that Stang.

wcryan 07-08-2011 11:10 AM

yes, video please

NeverSatisfied02 07-08-2011 11:19 AM

V should walk it...

FRiCK 07-08-2011 11:29 AM

Oh... there will be a vid... Should be up by 1-2am lol

wcryan 07-08-2011 11:42 AM

subscribed..... I like watching videos drunk

FRiCK 07-08-2011 11:51 AM

Is it worth it to get any weight out of the car? If so, what should I take out??

STAGEUP 07-08-2011 11:52 AM

He doesn't have a chance. He might as well bow down like now.

wcryan 07-08-2011 11:53 AM

I was thinking the same thing

But if you got a dead body in the trunk; yeah..... I'd take that out real quick

D.K 07-08-2011 11:57 AM

Provided he can drive, it'll be closer than you think. It may be the "lame" 4.6, but it's also a 4v, and when decently modded don't run as bad as most people think. My even lamer 2v 4.6 ran 12.2s @ 111 with a similar mod list and 285HP at the wheels.
I think it'll be a good race! :drive:

EPIK 07-08-2011 12:00 PM

I will be there to witness this, may even have to get in a run as well. People do underate Mach 1's, they run hard for an N/A 4.6, & his is pretty modded, but I'm still thinking he doesn't stand a chance from a roll. You already remember what happened when u ran against my old Mach with full boltons. You edged me out slightly & your car was pretty stock-ish back then, plus u had 2 chicks in your car.... lol... get em!!!!

Quick Sh0t xMLx 07-08-2011 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by D.K (Post 15128918)
Provided he can drive, it'll be closer than you think. It may be the "lame" 4.6, but it's also a 4v, and when decently modded don't run as bad as most people think. My even lamer 2v 4.6 ran 12.2s @ 111 with a similar mod list and 285HP at the wheels.
I think it'll be a good race! :drive:

That's what I was saying. The CTS-V definitely has the advantage but people are acting like it's a stock SN95 vs a stock LS1 F-Body in 1998 or something. The Mach is down 70 whp but he weighs at least 400 lbs less. Yes that would give the advantage to the V but if his driving is on point and the V slips up...who knows. Meh the V will probably pull about 2 cars though.

wcryan 07-08-2011 12:04 PM

the video will tell all!

FRiCK 07-08-2011 12:13 PM

Some interweb research leads me to this. This is him....


In this video he has 4.30's, he has 3.73's now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgZWe...e_gdata_player

big reg 07-08-2011 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by STAGEUP (Post 15128904)
He doesn't have a chance. He might as well bow down like now.

Qouted for truth!!

vmapper 07-08-2011 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by D.K (Post 15128918)
Provided he can drive, it'll be closer than you think. It may be the "lame" 4.6, but it's also a 4v, and when decently modded don't run as bad as most people think. My even lamer 2v 4.6 ran 12.2s @ 111 with a similar mod list and 285HP at the wheels.
I think it'll be a good race! :drive:

lol, I dont think 285rwhp = 111 mph... lol, was there any interior at all? - that would have to weight under 2800. I call bull on that one.
if this 'lamer' car your talking about did pull out 111.. LIES on the rwhp or a gutted car.

True, the 4v does wake up with mods! nice curve... but overall the motor is tapped out in general just talking in general not specificly this.. hence why they finally went back to the better 5.0.

Just think..
Hey lets do a CAM ... oh I need 4? -


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