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Old May 9, 2017 | 06:57 PM
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Have a question and thank you for looking, im and oldschool BBC guy so the ls is all new to me......to make a long story short i just got a 1984 chevy short bed street truck with a 98 LS1 carb set up with the LS6 box......i notice those boxes come with timing chips (pills) well the old man i got the truck from did not build it so he didnt have them..........1) does this mean that its been programmed by a lap top ? if i buy the timing chips (pills) and put one in there will it over ride whats already set up ?......besides a rich idle truck runs hard.....but i want to add a little NO2 and would like to know where my timing is set......dont mean to sound dumb but this lap top ls1 stuff is all new to me, thanks for looking..any help would be appreciated.......

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Old May 9, 2017 | 08:29 PM
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Is it a red MSD box?

The box may have been manually programmed with a laptop, or it was programmed with a preset chip, and then the chip was removed after.

The chip does not need to be kept inserted in the box for it to run that setup. Inserting the chip and powering the box on simply uploads that preset curve into the box, and then the chip can be removed.

From MSD instructions:

TIMING CURVE MODULES
The PN 6010 Controller is supplied with six modules that plug
into the side of the housing (Figure 3). The modules are labeled
Curve 1, Curve 2, etc. By plugging in one of the modules, the
timing curve will be set with a pre-programmed curve upon
power-up of the Controller. (Removing the module while the
engine is running will not affect the timing curve.) Figure 4
shows each of the timing
curves.

Note: Any updates that are
made using the PC
software will be
overridden if a
module is left
plugged in during
power-up of the
Controller.

If you put a chip in it, then it will override the previous program, and it will run off of the program on the chip.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 03:42 AM
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Don't waste your money on those chips. The guy probably threw them away or got them stuck somewhere like everyone else. Just download the software for free from the MSD website. Those chips have nothing for you. Especially with Nos. Most don't use them ever.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 04:35 AM
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No one recommends using the "pills"....except maybe MSD.

As above, download the MSD program for your box, get the cord that connects the PC to the MSD, and we'll help you from there
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Originally Posted by LQ4BU
Is it a red MSD box?

The box may have been manually programmed with a laptop, or it was programmed with a preset chip, and then the chip was removed after.

The chip does not need to be kept inserted in the box for it to run that setup. Inserting the chip and powering the box on simply uploads that preset curve into the box, and then the chip can be removed.

From MSD instructions:

TIMING CURVE MODULES
The PN 6010 Controller is supplied with six modules that plug
into the side of the housing (Figure 3). The modules are labeled
Curve 1, Curve 2, etc. By plugging in one of the modules, the
timing curve will be set with a pre-programmed curve upon
power-up of the Controller. (Removing the module while the
engine is running will not affect the timing curve.) Figure 4
shows each of the timing
curves.

Note: Any updates that are
made using the PC
software will be
overridden if a
module is left
plugged in during
power-up of the
Controller.

If you put a chip in it, then it will override the previous program, and it will run off of the program on the chip.
thank you for your help !
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thank you for yourhelp
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Old May 10, 2017 | 06:31 PM
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thank you guys for all your help, ill see about downloading the program and getting a laptop and seewhat happens, im sure i will be back lol
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