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Old 03-22-2013, 09:37 AM
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58". The stock rear end is 60". I wanted to run wider rims and tires so I narrowed a 9" I had. The brake calipers clears by about a 1/2" on each side, I'll trim the frame on each side to gain 3/4" more per side.
Darn it!

I bought a 2000 S10/Blazer 4X4 rear end because everyone says they will work and are virtually a clean swap. It turns out that my rear axle is 63" from each wheel mount surface. Crap!
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Originally Posted by bobafet1
Darn it!

I bought a 2000 S10/Blazer 4X4 rear end because everyone says they will work and are virtually a clean swap. It turns out that my rear axle is 63" from each wheel mount surface. Crap!
Uh... "Everyone" is half right. There are two different width rear ends for the S-10s, you just happened to get the wrong one. Yours is the ZR4 code or something like that, its 4" wider than the other one that you need. Hopefully you can trade it for the other.

Another option is the 78-87 g-body car rear. I haven't measured one in years and I think they're close to 58.5". The biggest drawback is the gear selection. You would need to replace them as they come in 2.29, 2.41 and 2.56. S-10s can be found with 3.42, 3.73 and 4.11

Make sure you measure the backing plate to backing plate width also; these frames seem to just clear these narrower rears. Good Luck
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Update as promised, just late. I got a little time after work today and I snapped these, this is the work I did last Sunday.
Front layed out.



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Front and rear layed out. The rear frame will get sectioned so the car will lay rockers; if my math is correct.



I built these brackets with a chop saw and a grinder.






Front at approximate ride height. The sway bar is from a G-body GM, used for mock up purposes; I'll probably use a 1-1/4".


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54 is my favorite year for those chevys.
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Is the frame boxed?
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I built these brackets with a chop saw and a grinder.
I don't know how often you do this stuff but a plasma cutter is a tool I debated a long time and I'm glad I spent the money. Making brackets is so much easier with one.

Everything looks really nice, I'm excited for the finished product.
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Originally Posted by Empatho
54 is my favorite year for those chevys.
Mine too.
Old 03-23-2013, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ls13ater
Is the frame boxed?
If you look at the first two pictures that I recently added you'll see that the frame is boxed, but not how you would typically see it. The frame is what’s called a “top hat” design. The top is a “U” shape with flanges and the bottom is a flat piece riveted to it, essentially boxing it.
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Originally Posted by gofastwclass
I don't know how often you do this stuff but a plasma cutter is a tool I debated a long time and I'm glad I spent the money. Making brackets is so much easier with one.

Everything looks really nice, I'm excited for the finished product.
Gofast, I’ve considered a plasma cutter in the past, but I built these fairly quick with my method. A plasma cutter would speed up productivity. I would love to get a laser jet or water jet table, but I can’t justify the cost as little as I could use it, even the smaller homeowner ones.

Thanks for the comments.
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Sorry guys, I've been real busy. I took these two weeks ago and never up loaded them. Last weekend was a bust and this weekend I started fabbing up the rear end and rear lowers to convert to a 4-link instead of the 2-link. I may even do a triangulated z-link. No pics of it yet.

Sectioning of the frame to lay rockers.






Shock mounts







Mock up for fuel tank and regulator.



During mock up I found I'll need to route the fuel line a little different. Getting closer and closer to droping the engine and transmission on to the frame.
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Update. I got a little closer to getting the engine and trans ready for the chassis. Needed to finish the welding on the rear suspension. I ended up building a 3-link. I had to salvage the work I already did for the 2-link. I think it turned out ok. All the brackets I built using a chop saw and grinder.

Rearend 3-link upper.



Upper rear shock mount.



Everything tied together.



Another shot from the front.



Front sway bar mount.



Motor mount.



That's it for now.

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Originally Posted by DEEDDUDE
Uh... "Everyone" is half right. There are two different width rear ends for the S-10s, you just happened to get the wrong one. Yours is the ZR4 code or something like that, its 4" wider than the other one that you need. Hopefully you can trade it for the other.

Another option is the 78-87 g-body car rear. I haven't measured one in years and I think they're close to 58.5". The biggest drawback is the gear selection. You would need to replace them as they come in 2.29, 2.41 and 2.56. S-10s can be found with 3.42, 3.73 and 4.11

Make sure you measure the backing plate to backing plate width also; these frames seem to just clear these narrower rears. Good Luck
I considered the Ford Explorer 8.8 for my 53 Chevy. It's around 58.75 inches. Disc brakes, posi. But I ended up building a 67 Chevelle 12 bolt housing I had. I have LS1 rear disc brakes for it, with 2005 Mustang GT brakes for my Mustang II setup. And hopefully, 2005 GMC hydroboost unit for power.
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damn good fab work....that thing is going to be killer.
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Originally Posted by damon0346
damn good fab work....that thing is going to be killer.

Thanks, I've gotten a little further along. I'll try to post more pics this weekend. The motor is mounted and I'm ready to run the fuel lines, power and brake lines.

Thanks again.
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Painted the chassis and started re-assembly. Got the engine and trans installed along with the front suspension. Hopefully have a roller next weekend.







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man you went all out !
i have 53 bel air convertible with a lt4 , wish it was a ls1
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nice ride !!!!
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Originally Posted by Eddie Aop Benjamin
man you went all out !
i have 53 bel air convertible with a lt4 , wish it was a ls1
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nice ride !!!!
Thanks Eddie.
I wanted to do either the LT-1 or LT-4 in the past in my 86 Silverado, but I didn't think I could do it. When the LS engine came out I knew I had to get one. With the help from this site I maybe able to make this one work.
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Deff following this build. I want a bagged and bodied belair
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I tried updating last week, but had issues with my work computer. Anyway. I got a lot of work done the last couple weekends. I've got a roller now and have the body back on. I'll have to pull it back off for the floor board and wheel well replacement.

This is as low as I could get it before the wheel well modification. I had to cut them twice and I think I'll need a little more when the trailer fenders get here.



Here she is laying rockers. There's a lip under the rockers where all the sheet metal meets, I don't think I'll remove it.






Engine installed. I had to cut the trans tunnel quite a bit to get the 4L60E in there.



My nicely painted fuel tank is now a catch all and has a few bruises.



Cut wheel wells.



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