almost there.. won't start i'm not getting spark or fuel. i have a vats bypass wired in. i'm getting 12v to the coils and injectors. i have tested continuity on the grounds and they are good. here is the info i found on this site as to what is in an aftermarket harness. the wires marked with *'s are wires that are not in my harness. have i removed something that needs to be there for the car to start? BLUE 1 BLK PCM GROUND 2 LT GRN CRANK. POS. SENSOR B+ SUPPLY 3 PNK/BLK INJECTOR 3 CONTROL 4 LT GRN/BLK INJECTOR 2 CONTROL 8 GRA TP SENSOR 5V REF 11 LT BLU KNOCK SENSOR REAR 12 DK BLU/WHT CRANKSHAFT POS. SIGNAL 17 DK BLU TRANS. RANGE SIGNAL B 18 RED TRANS. RANGE SIGNAL C 19 PNK IGNITION. POS. VOLT. 20 ORG BAT. POS. VOLT 21 YEL/BLK CRANK POS. REF. LOW 26 TAN HO2S SIGNAL LOW BANK 2 SENSOR 1 29 TAN/WHT HO2S SIGNAL LOW BANK 1 SENSOR 1 *33 PPL TCC BRAKE SWITCH *34 ORN/BLK PNP SWITCH SIGNAL 36 BLK INJECTOR 1 CONTOL 37 YEL/BLK INJECTOR 6 CONTROL 40 BLK PCM GROUND *41 BLK EGR PINTLE POSITION. SENSOR GROU *42 DK GRN ENG. COOLING FAN RELAY 1 CONTROL 43 RED/BLK INJECTOR 7 CONTROL 44 LT BLU/BLK INJECTOR 4 CONTROL *45 GRA A/C REFRIG. PRESS. SENSOR 5V REF *46 GRA FUEL TANK PRESS. SENSOR 5V REF *47 GRA EGR PINTLE POS. SENSOR 5V REF 48 GRA MAP SENSOR 5V REF 51 DK BLU KNOCK SENSOR SIGNAL FRONT *53 BLK TRAN. TEMP. SENSOR GROUND 54 ORG/BLK MAP SENSOR GROUND *55 BRN EGR PINTLE POSITION. SENSOR SIGNAL 57 ORG BAT. POS. VOLT 58 DRK GRN SERIAL DATA 60 BLK TP SENSOR GROUND 61 PNK/BLK CAMSHAFT POS. SENSOR REF. LOW 66 PPL HO2S SIGNAL HIGH BANK 2 SENSOR 1 69 PPL/WHT HO2S SIGNAL HIGH BANK 1 SENSOR 1 73 BRN/WHT CAMSHAFT POS. SENSOR SIGNAL 74 YEL ENG. COOLLANT TEMP.SENSOR SIGNAL 76 BLK/WHT INJECTOR 5 CONTROL 77 DK BLU/WHT INJECTOR 8 CONTROL *79 GRA OR WHT SKIP SHIFT SELENOID CNTROL (M/T) OR 2&3 SHIFT SELENOID CONTROL (A/T) 80 BLK ENG. COLOLANT TEMP. SENSOR GROUND RED 1 BLK PCM GROUND *2 BRN TCC CONTROL SOLENOID *6 RED/BLK TRANS. PRESS.CONTROL SELENOID CONTROL HIGH *8 LT BLU/WHT TRANS. PRESS.CONTROL SELENOID CONTROL LOW *9 DK/GRN FUEL PUMP RELAY CONTROL 10 WHT ENG. SPEED (TACH) OUTPUT SIGNAL *14 RED/BLK A/C REFRIG. PRESS. SENSOR SIGNAL 15 RED ALTERNATOR TERMINAL *17 DRK GRN/WHT A/C REQUEST SIGNAL *18 DK GRN A/C STATUS SIGNAL *20 LT GRN/BLK VSS REFERENCE LOW *21 ???? Not supplied ???? 24 DK BLU TP SENSOR SIGNAL 25 TAN IAT SENSOR SIGNAL 26 PPL INGNITION CONTROL 1 27 RED INGNITION CONTROL 7 28 LT BLU/WHT INGNITION CONTROL 6 29 DK GRN/WHT INGNITION CONTROL 4 *30 DK BLU VDT FUEL ENABLE SIGNAL 31 YEL MAF SENSOR SIGNAL 32 LT GRN MAP SENSOR SIGNAL *33 DK BLU ENG. COOLING FAN RELAY 2 & 3 CONTROL *36 BRN AIR PUMP RELAY CONTROL 39 RED CAMSHAFT POS. SENSOR B+ SUPPLY 40 BLK PCM GROUND *41 GRA EGR POSITION SENSOR GROUND *42 TAN/BLK TCC ENABLE CIRCUIT *43 DK GRN/WHT A/C CLUTCH RELAY CONTROL *44 LT GRN REV. INHIBIT SOLENOID CONTROL *46 BRN/WHT MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP CONTROL *47 YEL/BLK TRANMISSION. SHIFT SOLENOID B *48 LT GRN TRANMISSION. SHIFT SOLENOID A *50 DK GRN/WHT VEHICLE SPEED OUTPUT CIRCUIT *51 YEL/BLK TRANS. TEMP. SENSOR SIGNAL 57 PPL IAT SENSOR GROUND 60 BRN INGNITION CONTROL REFERENCE LOW BANK 1 61 BRN/WHT INGNITION CONTROL REFERENCE LOW BANK 2 *63 PNK TRANS RANGE SIGNAL A 66 PPL/WHT IGNITION CONTROL 8 67 RED/WHT IGNITION CONTROL 2 68 DK GRN IGNITION CONTROL 5 69 LT BLU IGNITION CONTROL 3 76 LT GRN/WHT IAC COIL B HIGH 77 LT GRN/BLK IAC COIL B LOW 78 LT BLU/BLK IAC COIL A LOW 79 LT BLU/WHT IAC COIL A HIGH |
I would think you need this one "*9 DK/GRN FUEL PUMP RELAY CONTROL". |
the fuel pump is working because it is wired on it's own cirtuit. maybe the computer needs to see something there, i wouldn't think so, but i dunno. |
What do you have your VATS bypass wired to if you don't have #30 VTD fuel enable signal? |
the vats bypass is going to pin 30. |
What are you working on? You have an aftermarket wiring harness, but what's the PCM out of? Was just thinking if it's a truck PCM, the bypass won't work. Just a thought. |
i trade for this car and it was already half done. i don't know what this harness is from honestly. all the wires that have been removed were done so by the previous owner. it had all of the connectors chopped off when i got it. i modified all the wires to the correct lengths and put connectors on them. the wire colors are consitant with the 2000 fbody diagram i got off of this site. the computer is marked stock 99 and the guy told me it was from an fbody. rah! |
A long time ago, I had modified a 5.3 harness for a guy. We got in a hurry and wanted to hear it run, and hadn't finished wiring up the fuel pump relay. We hot wire the fuel pump and went for it, nothing. When i scanned it , there was a code P0230 for fuel pump control. We wired up the fuel pump relay and then it started. now I don't know if that was it or not, but might be worth a shot..let us know... Not sure if the PCM would shut down fire/fuel for a relay circuit not working. Hey, also make sure you have power to injectors/coils/pcm DURING CRANKING Regardless if VATS was disabled or not, you should always have spark, and injectors should fire for a few seconds..then die. Also, injectors like to stick after sitting for a long time, might try priming the intake with fuel when you get spark going and still have problems. |
hmmm, i guess i will move the fuel pump relay trigger from the key to the computer. i already figured out the hard way the i need to wire up key hot AND the start position on the ignition key:) |
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