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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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im qoing with a carburated lq4 this might be a silly question but do I need anything else besides the msd 6010 box and 60101 harness to wire the car or do i need some kind of wiring harness?


Also, Can i bolt the motor directly to the 2004r with just the f body flexplate and gm crank spacer? or do i need anything else?

Eventually im goin to swap in a th350 can i use the same flexpate and spacer on this application?

Also, Do i need and fuel or brake line mods or do they bolt right up?
these are my 2 biggest concerns!!

i need some help asap. if any of guys are able to offer any better suggestions or just simply answer my questions I would greatly appreciate it.

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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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yea just box and harness that comes with it..

fuel should be the same.. brkes run off vacum port.. hook to carb port.

u need flex plate spacer, with bolts.. flex plate it self should bolt up.. idk.

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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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The 6010 comes with a wiring harness. You don't neeed to buy the 60101 harness as it is just a shorter (or longer I can't recall) version of what already comes with the box.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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thanks fellas any other info would be helpful also thanks
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Pretty easy swap with the LS swap engine motor mounts on a G-body from what I have heard.

I would change the cam... on that 5.3 before I swap the motor. Find a used Z06 cam for about 100.00 bucks and change the springs... you will pick up a easy 50hp with a decent exhaust system.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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thanks for the help.. its a 6 liter though.
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Unless you're build is a track specific car or will see very limited street time, why not keep the 2004r ? There are other g-body build threads here if you search, i think 84cutlass supreme (in Austrailia) has a car'b 6.0, good luck with your swap.
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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thanks but the 200's and 700's are week trannys..they break easy. i really just need to find the right engine mounts to keep the tranny in a stock location....
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Originally Posted by G'D_UPLQ4
thanks but the 200's and 700's are week trannys..they break easy. i really just need to find the right engine mounts to keep the tranny in a stock location....
Brp and several others have the mounts you need. idk if you're speaking from personal experience or what you've read & heard, but i've got a built 700r4 behind my 450 hp 550ft lb 468 with no problems and have'nt had any with a properly built 2004r. If you need more convincing take a peek at Car Craft's march 2009 issue, and let Art Carr convince you; 2004r 1000hp blown big block. Weak
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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you're prob right whats a good price on a good 2004r rebuild
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strong built 200 r4 start to get pricey quick, a good ole th350 with some good parts will handle just about anything u throw at it.
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strong built 200 r4 start to get pricey quick, a good ole th350 with some good parts will handle just about anything u throw at it.
While i agree with tha statement, if you're driving your car enough the xtra money is easily justified, drive just one cruise night and you gotta get on the e-way with that good ole th350 or th400 and you're pissed !!! Gotta trailer ??? you're gonna need one lmao so while im driving my STREET & STRIP car to the track sombody's gonna be towing theirs. I live in Chicago and Turbo Terry Transmissions does 2004r's for about $ 1500 that includes a converter, I believe his comparably equipped th350 runs $ 750 (MAYBE LESS) without a converter. When i was a kid every 355 or 383 i built had a th350 behind it !!!!! I'm all grown up now lmao and i really wanna drive and enjoy my money, labor, time pit of a car. And thats just my .02
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Originally Posted by kj598bbc
While i agree with tha statement, if you're driving your car enough the xtra money is easily justified, drive just one cruise night and you gotta get on the e-way with that good ole th350 or th400 and you're pissed !!! Gotta trailer ??? you're gonna need one lmao so while im driving my STREET & STRIP car to the track sombody's gonna be towing theirs. I live in Chicago and Turbo Terry Transmissions does 2004r's for about $ 1500 that includes a converter, I believe his comparably equipped th350 runs $ 750 (MAYBE LESS) without a converter. When i was a kid every 355 or 383 i built had a th350 behind it !!!!! I'm all grown up now lmao and i really wanna drive and enjoy my money, labor, time pit of a car. And thats just my .02
i had no prob. driving 30mins to track, both ways. clicking off a low 11's
drive thru's, hiway, big city traffic, etc. 4k stall 3.73 gears and all that with a carb. and mech fan. no ps., roll down windows.
you know, what i beleive is the real muscle car experience
so i guess it depends what the op can tolerate, i for one got no probs. with it. and if had to use strong a4, i would just pay for 80e.
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ya'll both make good points but the th350 is a better unit to race with and i know for certain the 700r4/4l60e is a piece of ****...
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