Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

2nd Gen. Camaro Owners

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 20, 2009 | 05:03 PM
  #1  
hcb1700's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 446
Likes: 1
From: Oakland, California
Default 2nd Gen. Camaro Owners

I just bought a 5.3L engine and am looking into dropping it in my 78 Camaro and was wondering, what mounts do you guys use/recommend for my 78? I am about to drop a pair of LS1 heads and cam on the engine that were on my brothers 2001 Z28, for free. I also picked up a 2000 SS intake manifold, it's not the LS6 intake, but it was only $25. Oh, also what head gaskets should I use, the trucks or an LS1's head gaskets? And yes I did search around the forum for my answers all day yesterday. I was able to find some things out, but I still have some question.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2009 | 05:08 PM
  #2  
Jimbo1367's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,030
Likes: 660
Default

just do GM LS1 head gaskets. A few people have done Edlebrock mounts but I am looking at BRPhotrods mount kit and headers. Hopefully LSxretro will do a kit soon. I believe he or they use to work at BRP.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2009 | 05:42 PM
  #3  
hcb1700's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 446
Likes: 1
From: Oakland, California
Default

Do you think I'll gain some power with the LS1 heads/cam on the stock 5.3L engine? So they will work on the engine right? What are those tubes that run across to each head under the intake manifold called? I have to get the LS1's since the trucks interfere with the LS1 intake. Thanks
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 03:08 PM
  #4  
Isolde's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 648
Likes: 1
From: Smithfield, UT
Default

I have '01 truck steam things with an '00 LS1 intake, only took a mild tweak by hand to get them to live together. No big deal. You have 9.5:1 compression now, with your 61.06cc heads. The LS1 heads are 66.67cc, so you'd be around 9.0:1. Not good. Just bolting on the LS6 heads, at 64.45cc, costs power, despite the better flow and better chambers. Compression is very important. Even if you have the LS1 heads milled 0.030", you're still no better for compression than you are now. Better to just leave the 5.3 heads on there for now, and run a single-pattern cam. Maybe something like the TR220.

Last edited by Isolde; Dec 23, 2009 at 03:08 PM. Reason: typo
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 11:01 PM
  #5  
hcb1700's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 446
Likes: 1
From: Oakland, California
Default

Originally Posted by Isolde
I have '01 truck steam things with an '00 LS1 intake, only took a mild tweak by hand to get them to live together. No big deal. You have 9.5:1 compression now, with your 61.06cc heads. The LS1 heads are 66.67cc, so you'd be around 9.0:1. Not good. Just bolting on the LS6 heads, at 64.45cc, costs power, despite the better flow and better chambers. Compression is very important. Even if you have the LS1 heads milled 0.030", you're still no better for compression than you are now. Better to just leave the 5.3 heads on there for now, and run a single-pattern cam. Maybe something like the TR220.
Wont the tube break? It looks to me like the tube that pock up towards the intake cannot be turned. I have decided to keep the stock heads and add yellow ZO6 springs with the addition of a cam, still don't know which one to go with. What's the lift on the TR220? These springs are good for up to a .580" lift.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 03:43 PM
  #6  
Black&White's Avatar
On The Tree
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
From: Commiefornia
Default



since all the 2nd gen owners should be here, may as well ask my 2 questions too

1.) Will a 4L80e fit a 70 camaro without modification to the trans tunnel
2.) For those of you who have already done the swap, about how much room do you have from the intake valley to the stock, flat hood (wanting to know if the carb setup will fit without changing the hood)
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 05:31 PM
  #7  
1972_Z-28's Avatar
On The Tree
15 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 133
Likes: 1
From: Sugar Land, Tx.
Default

Lots of LSx swap into 2nd gens on nastyz28.com
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 01:48 PM
  #8  
Isolde's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 648
Likes: 1
From: Smithfield, UT
Default

Originally Posted by hcb1700
Wont the tube break? It looks to me like the tube that pock up towards the intake cannot be turned. I have decided to keep the stock heads and add yellow ZO6 springs with the addition of a cam, still don't know which one to go with. What's the lift on the TR220? These springs are good for up to a .580" lift.
My tube didn't break, but I did it by hand, not using the box end of a wrench, and I didn't bend it very far. I'm using an '01 5.3 truck TB with an '00 LS1 camaro intake manifold.
The TR220 is a .581" cam, and that's close enough to be safe. The HR lifters will "eat" more than 0.001" anyway.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 12:58 AM
  #9  
hcb1700's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 446
Likes: 1
From: Oakland, California
Default

Originally Posted by Isolde
My tube didn't break, but I did it by hand, not using the box end of a wrench, and I didn't bend it very far. I'm using an '01 5.3 truck TB with an '00 LS1 camaro intake manifold.
The TR220 is a .581" cam, and that's close enough to be safe. The HR lifters will "eat" more than 0.001" anyway.
I'm going to try to bend the tube by hand. I'm also going to look into that cam.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 09:01 AM
  #10  
Jimbo1367's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,030
Likes: 660
Default

1972 Z28,
I went to www.nastyz28.com a few times and I can not find anything with LS swaps. I do not like that sites format at all. Any hints on finding the swap info?

Thanks,
Jim
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 02:44 PM
  #11  
battsup's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Jimbo1367
1972 Z28,
I went to www.nastyz28.com a few times and I can not find anything with LS swaps. I do not like that sites format at all. Any hints on finding the swap info?

Thanks,
Jim
There is a subforum called High Tech retrofits. I agree with you though, there is a lot of good information there i'm sure but it needs to be centralized more or organized better. I was trying to find transmission information for cross members etc etc for LSX swaps and couldn't find anything.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 02:50 PM
  #12  
Jimbo1367's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,030
Likes: 660
Default

thanks
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 02:52 PM
  #13  
Jimbo1367's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,030
Likes: 660
Default

found it, thanks again
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:48 PM
  #14  
hcb1700's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 446
Likes: 1
From: Oakland, California
Default

Originally Posted by Jimbo1367
found it, thanks again
Do you have the link. I also tried looking for threads on the swap, but couldn't find anything.
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 06:08 PM
  #15  
Jimbo1367's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,030
Likes: 660
Default here ya go

Originally Posted by hcb1700
Do you have the link. I also tried looking for threads on the swap, but couldn't find anything.
http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/forumd...aysprune=&f=49
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 06:10 PM
  #16  
Jimbo1367's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,030
Likes: 660
Default

I personally liked seeing some intank pump conversions to give me some other ideads than what I planned.

Jim
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 PM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE