Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

GMPP vs Speartech Harness

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 2, 2011 | 09:21 PM
  #21  
430 hp 70's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
From: Huntington Beach, Ca
Default

looks good, but i really like the non split loom further above. still not sure which direction im headed.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2011 | 10:32 PM
  #22  
lizeec's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (57)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 753
Likes: 20
Default

Originally Posted by 430 hp 70
looks good, but i really like the non split loom further above. still not sure which direction im headed.
I like the non split loom look as well but I am a heavy equipment tech and I always hated some of the stuff engineers designed that is not user friendly or mechanic friendly and definitely not diagnostic friendly, with the non split loom it would be a big hassle if you have to trace a short or replace or add any wires, and I am pretty certain at some point or another you will have to slice open that pretty non split loom.

Last edited by lizeec; Nov 2, 2011 at 11:37 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 01:54 PM
  #23  
430 hp 70's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
From: Huntington Beach, Ca
Default

I like the non split loom look as well but I am a heavy equipment tech and I always hated some of the stuff engineers designed that is not user friendly or mechanic friendly and definitely not diagnostic friendly, with the non split loom it would be a big hassle if you have to trace a short or replace or add any wires, and I am pretty certain at some point or another you will have to slice open that pretty non split loom.
good point. im hoping that would never happen though.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 06:08 PM
  #24  
rfrankb4's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: Mobile Alabama
Default

you obviously have the skill. If you can make the time just do it yourself. Get it all laid out how you want it ran and test the harness. Then it is just depinning the harness and running it piece by piece through the loom. It is time consuming but not difficult.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:08 PM
  #25  
samckitt's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 535
Likes: 9
From: Williamsburg, VA
Default

Where would I find a wiring diagram for an LS3 / T56 setup to make my own harness?
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 09:53 PM
  #26  
rfrankb4's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: Mobile Alabama
Default

I would check out the thread on this forum with some pinouts. Also look at lt1swap.com and autozone.com has lot of wiring diagrams.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2011 | 11:56 AM
  #27  
SilverBullet73's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 278
Likes: 0
From: Clifton NJ
Default

I used the Speartech harness for my g-body swap. John asked me where I wanted to mount the computer and what emissions equipment I was going to use and then he fabbed it up. John even told me what model year sensors to get that would work best with my application. The harness was so easy to install it was amazing. I thought it was going to be a nightmare but it was far from the case. Everything worked like it was supposed to. I don't know much about the gm performance harness other than tuning the computer on them is a pain for some reason.
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2011 | 11:33 AM
  #28  
430 hp 70's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
From: Huntington Beach, Ca
Default

I don't know much about the gm performance harness other than tuning the computer on them is a pain for some reason.
thats what im still looking for specifics on. ive read that theyre a pain, but nobody says why. most other threads are 09 and older where people claimed they couldnt be tuned. now that we know thats not true, what are the issues?

at this point i may call john and see how much his programming of the ecu is costing. i dont need the service since my tuner is going to set up a base tune to allow me to work out the bugs before we strap it down to the dyno.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 5, 2011 | 04:22 PM
  #29  
rfrankb4's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: Mobile Alabama
Default

Have you asked that question over on the HP tuners forums. Or email their support guys.
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2011 | 09:01 PM
  #30  
430 hp 70's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
From: Huntington Beach, Ca
Default

Have you asked that question over on the HP tuners forums. Or email their support guys.
i havent asked, but i did search their forum. i kind of felt out of place over there since i dont actually own their software. ill take your advice and see what i can find.

ive also priced building one myself, and im right at the price of the gmpp harness once i include the maf, pedal etc...
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:43 AM
  #31  
Jimbo1367's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,029
Likes: 660
Default

Originally Posted by SilverBullet73
The harness was so easy to install it was amazing. I thought it was going to be a nightmare but it was far from the case. Everything worked like it was supposed too. .
Thats good to know. Hopefully I will be at that point with my Speartech harness this summer. I've been kinda dreading it.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2014 | 05:56 PM
  #32  
solo20's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Default

what is everyone buying now . so many ecm kits out there and the prices are high on some.
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2014 | 07:48 AM
  #33  
psiconversion's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
15 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,310
Likes: 11
From: Brick, NJ
Default

Psiconversion has harnesses for almost any combo, including ls3 with a 4l60e, 4l80e, and 6l80e (which gmpp doesn't).
__________________

Your Source for LSX Conversion Parts!
www.psiconversion.com

Ebay Store
Facebook/psiconversion
Instagram/psiconversion

'Dont Let EFI Pass You By!'
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2014 | 11:56 AM
  #34  
6D9 Matt's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
From: Owensboro, KY
Default

PSI Conversions for my swap. A+
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2014 | 04:47 PM
  #35  
ctd450's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
From: 201 NJ
Default

Originally Posted by psiconversion
Psiconversion has harnesses for almost any combo, including ls3 with a 4l60e, 4l80e, and 6l80e (which gmpp doesn't).
I'm building an Ultra4 car with an '08 LY6 with longtube headers and LS3 intake backed by a '10 (I'm told) 6L80. I've got the harness done already, but can you guys flash my 08 E38 to work with the 2010 trans? Also, can you tune my trans with a corvette flash to enable tap shifting?

I'm about 90 minutes from Tom's River, and my team mate lives in Brick. Do you offer live tuning or just bench tuning?
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 10:32 AM
  #36  
gagliano7's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 126
From: Monroe,NY
Default

Also checkout http://www.bp-automotive.com/ he is a sponsor here.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:00 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE