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Old 10-31-2013, 09:07 AM
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I have an 02 camaro SS, In sig, Is it possible to do a drop in with an LS6 from a Z06? If it isnt a drop in does anyone know what will need to be modified as far as the engine bay, etc goes?
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An 02 LS1 is basically a LS6, has the block and intake, just missing the heads/valve/springs and cam.

The LS6 is a Gen III engine like your LS1 and will just drop right in or you can update your engine with the Heads and cam.

Suggest you do a little research...

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Originally Posted by bczee
An 02 LS1 is basically a LS6, has the block and intake, just missing the heads/valve/springs and cam.

The LS6 is a Gen III engine like your LS1 and will just drop right in or you can update your engine with the Heads and cam.

Suggest you do a little research...

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Thanks, I am familiar with the LS1, I did all my work myself with my dad. No I am not 18-25. I am doing the swap with a good friend who does autocross and I am not too familiar with the LS6 or really anything vette related. He, on the other hand is kinda a vette guru. Just wanted to make sure it would be a easy-ish swap before I spend $6500 on a motor. Thanks
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why not go with a early 24x LS2 6.0L ?? that would also be a drop in @ 400hp

or just update your block for a lot less than $6500.. just find a LS6 cam (or aftermarket).. some prep'd 243 heads (or aftermarket) and your there it for a whole lot less.
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Originally Posted by bczee
why not go with a early 24x LS2 6.0L ?? that would also be a drop in @ 400hp

or just update your block for a lot less than $6500.. just find a LS6 cam (or aftermarket).. some prep'd 243 heads (or aftermarket) and your there it for a whole lot less.
Agreed completely. $6500 is a lot of go-fast goodies for a LS1 motor. You can make a lot more HP with $6500 dumped into the LS1 that's already in your car than wasting time and $$ with switching motors.
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I am choosing to go the LS6 route because
A) I am obsessed with NA power.
B) this is very built LS6 that laid 702/689 on dyno
C) has very very low miles on it.
D) other than going with Fi, theres not a lot left to do to my LS1, its' met its' NA potenetial or very close to it. and the LS1 is going into something else(64.5 Mustang)
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Originally Posted by wilkes02SS
I am choosing to go the LS6 route because
A) I am obsessed with NA power.
B) this is very built LS6 that laid 702/689 on dyno
C) has very very low miles on it.
D) other than going with Fi, theres not a lot left to do to my LS1, its' met its' NA potenetial or very close to it. and the LS1 is going into something else(64.5 Mustang)
B is the part that was not mentioned. The thoughts were that it was a stock LS6 out of a vette, not a built one.

Straight drop in; just need to use your accessories, brackets, oil pan, (and maybe harness/PCM but I'm not 100%).
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Yup.. its all in the details of what is being asked that will get you the correct answers you want or need the 1st time around.

Is that 702/689 Flywheel or RWHP ? If RWHP, that would be like 835hp range at the flywheel.. .that is a serious build if NA !

Anyway, good luck and keep us posted on the swap and results !

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Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
B is the part that was not mentioned. The thoughts were that it was a stock LS6 out of a vette, not a built one.

Straight drop in; just need to use your accessories, brackets, oil pan, (and maybe harness/PCM but I'm not 100%).
you are correct . I swore i said it was very well built. oh well. So accessories and the standard BS and it will be good to go. This will make the Red Witch so much more fun!
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Originally Posted by bczee
Yup.. its all in the details of what is being asked that will get you the correct answers you want or need the 1st time around.

Is that 702/689 Flywheel or RWHP ? If RWHP, that would be like 835hp range at the flywheel.. .that is a serious build if NA !

Anyway, good luck and keep us posted on the swap and results !

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i appologize. I thought i put that info in, but hey sometimes i have a dumb moment. the engine made those number RWHP in a C5 Z06. a good friend built it for his vette he uses in semi-pro autocross. It's sleeved and really a 434ci. sounds amazing to boot. I just have a love for big power from a NA LS engine. Once I start this I will be posting the build, this will be first Solo swap like this in my garage.
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The wiring harness should be the same but try to get him to throw in the computer with the engine purchase...That way it SHOULD be a plug and play swap. Speedo or other odds and ends might not be correct but at least you don't need to spend tons of money on dyno tuning building on the base LS1 map.
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Update: the engine is palletized and on its' way. I will be doing the Swap/build in December so I will be posting pictures, the build sheet/specs and the tune results somewhere between the 21 and the 30th of december. Pretty frickin' excited about this beast!
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Originally Posted by wilkes02SS
but hey sometimes i have a dumb moment.
Hey.. we all have them.. I know I do.. LOL..

Keep us posted on the swap and the results ! I don't forsee any issus with you doing this.. just pull the LS1 out and swap in the new LS6...

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Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, I'll ask.

Do you have the transmission, clutch/converter, driveshaft, and rear end to support that kind of power? Your stock stuff might explode at idle with that engine.
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Do you have the transmission, clutch/converter, driveshaft, and rear end to support that kind of power? Your stock stuff might explode at idle with that engine.
Assuming he's just putting the built engine and not the whole kit that made 700rwhp on the other car. Such an engine would probably not put down more than 450rwhp depending on the top end.
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What kit? The posts say "NA power" and I see no mention of it being anything other than a complete engine.
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You really think that a complete NA power engine is putting down 700 at the wheels and that his transmission, clutch, driveshaft and rear end would explode at idle from that engine?
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I suppose sarcasm doesn't work out well in text form. I doubt it makes that much power, but stock stuff won't last long even at 2/3 of what is claimed. I was asking just in case the OP has really found himself some sort of beast engine and plans to simply toss it in his car.
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The Engine is exactly as I said.
specs are:434 Cubic Inch LS6- Darton Wet Sleeve
Cartek Stage 5 Heads- 265 CC- 2.25 Intake/1.7 exhaust CNC Ported
W/ Ferrea Hollow Stem Steel Intake/ Sodium filled exhaust/ Brand New Springs
Comp Cams- 236/259 & 623/623 in @ 112 LSA
Wiseco 4.155 inch pistons = 11.5:1 Compression
Eagle Crank 4 inch Stroke/ H beam Rods 6.125 inch
2 Gallon A.R.E. 3 Stage Dry Sump- Stainless Lines to everything
A/N Fittings for Everything
Runs on a fixed speed density tune not MAF

Intake:
Fast 102 intake/ TPIS 90 MM TB
Carbon coupler
Vararam Ram Induction System

So yes it does make that power. NA!
and yes I do have the tranny, clutch driveshaft and rear to support it. This wasn't a spur of the moment buy, and I am not semi-handicapped.
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So, was that 702/689 Flywheel or RWHP ? What Dyno was used ?


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