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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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What oil pans are the G body LS guys running looking at some Moroso pans just want to be sure they fit?
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What oil pans are the G body LS guys running looking at some Moroso pans just want to be sure they fit?
I am using the original JZ Motorsports oil pan. JZ Motorsports has sold the rights to market the pan to Holley. That would be Holley's 302-1 pan. Incidentally I have it installed in a 1987 Buick T-Type that I am building. This oil pan in my opinion fits the best and does not hang below the crossmember. I am using this pan along with the BRP mounts and headers. Everything fits like a glove and if I were to do another G Body I would do this combination all over again. Hope this helps you. Rich
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How much clearance do you have between the frame and pan? I really want a larger cap. oil pan thats why i was looking at the Moroso's but knowing what pans fit helps!
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My AutoKraft fit like a glove.
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Not enough capacity though!
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Both the Holley 302-1 and 302-2 pans will fit in a G-body, but the 302-2 pan allows the front of the engine to be placed lower in the frame for improved driveline/U-joint working angles and more clearance on top of the engine to clear intakes, turbos and the GM truck accessory drive set-up. In order to take advantage of this improvement in geometry, you need to use engine mounting brackets that are specifically designed to get the engine lower than is possible with any LS swap plate set-up, which is what the new Hooker G-body LS engine swap bracket kit coming out is designed to do.

The 302-2 provides just over 6 quarts of oil capacity with the filter and retains the same engine-to-trans structural tie-in as the 302-1 pan does.
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Old Jun 28, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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Will the 302-2 alow the use of a windage tray that will need spaced due to a 4" stroke?
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Originally Posted by 6togo
Will the 302-2 alow the use of a windage tray that will need spaced due to a 4" stroke?
No, since the front profile of the 302-2 pan is modeled closely after the stock 4th-gen F-body pan, it will not accommodate a 4" stroke crank.
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That is the problem I'm finding with the slim front pans.
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That is the problem I'm finding with the slim front pans.
What exact vehicle/engine combination are you trying to put together? Stating that info will make any answers you receive much more relative and comprehensive.
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The guys over at elcamino central running fifth generation Elkies which are g-bodies mostly run the ctsv pan with a 1/4 spacer and adjustable mounts for the proper set back without any issues!
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The guys over at elcamino central running fifth generation Elkies which are g-bodies mostly run the ctsv pan with a 1/4 spacer and adjustable mounts for the proper set back without any issues!
I'm sure that would work just fine in many cases. Achieving desirable set-back is the easy part of the G-body swap equation, especially if you are deleting or notching the factory A/C evaporator case and/or relocating the rear-most coil pack on the right side valve cover. Achieving a set-back that eliminates the need to do any of above, delivers optimized U-joint angles on a lowered car (5 degrees of engine inclination angle isn't going to do it) and fits the truck accessories under the hood is a far more demanding requirement.
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Looking forward to seeing all the new stuff for the g bodies.
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Its a buick Gn with TT LSX 427/4L80E combo!
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Hey guys..Not only a newbie to forums, but a newbie to this whole LS-3 thing. Have a 1986 Monte Carlo, dropped 2", and am worried about oil pans. saw one fellow, going by the handle, "Turbo Buick" claiming he's using Holley 302-1 pan. when I went to holleys site, it said, NOT for use on G-bodies...what gives?
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MonteBob,that was me that said I was using the 302-1 oil pan. When I purchased the JZMotorsports oil pan Holley didn't have a kit out for the G Body cars. Later on Holley purchased the rights to market that pan and then gave the pan the 302-1 number. That pan actually sets the engine up higher but that didn't concern me because I was using BRP HotRods motor mounts. When Holley came out with their G Body LS conversion kit for the G Body cars they saw fit to lower the engine therefore needed to use their 302-2 oil pan. If Holley had their G Body LS conversion kit out at the time I did mine I would DEFINATELY have put the Holley kit in for sure. It would have saved me a lot of headaches. Save yourself some grief and go with the Holley Kit and their 302-2 oil pan. Trust me you won't be sorry. Rich
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 08:40 AM
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Mornin' Turbo Buick! Wow, didn't expect such a quick response! and hope I'm "replying" correctly..I have already ordered all the goodies from BRP, engine mounts, Trans. crossmember, and the LH-8 oil pan. I'm just worried that since the car does have a 2" drop, that this LH-8 pan's life COULD be in danger from any strikes. not sure where it's going to end up living exactly, as far as hanging above or below big ole frame crossmember down there, as engine and tranny are shelved at the shop who's gonna do the work for right now, so can't even see how everything's gonna fit in there at the moment. So, in short, since I already have the BRP mounts and such, you think I should go with the Holley, 302-1 pan then, to get me up and hiding above the main frame crossmember? Thanks much for the quick reply!
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After frustration / fabrication some have used piece meal components from various vendors. You might get the BRP stuff to work without issues but going with a Holley system provides an engineered, no hassle no cut bolt in installation with good drive line angle and low center of gravity. The Holley G body LS swap system includes a well made transmission crossmember and headers that bolt up without clearance issues and exit correctly
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L-92 Olds...Don't tell me that! lol! At this point, I feel if I go with the BRP mounts I already have, the Holley 302-2 pan that says on their site, "Perfect for G-bodys" (whereas the 302-1 says, "NOT for use on G-bodys") That may give me PLENTY of clearance as far as the frame goes, but I'm also trying to get RID of the STUPID remote P/S res. I have mounted up front next to the radiator. Right now I have a March true track system on the car,(on the ZZ-4) and that's what it came with, so for years now, been putting up with leaks, lost caps, etc. (well, not years now, bot issues have been dealt with..tightened my AN lines, and drilled and tapped a small hole on top of side of res. to install small screw to hold cap on..lost TWO caps before that!) so if the engine sits a "little high" might help out in that clearance department? On March's web site, the pic of the true track system has the res. attached to the pump..THAT'S what I want..But that's probably a whole 'nother thread!

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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 11:25 AM
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Now that I thought BRP was the bomb, and already bought all the stuff, everyone's talking about the Holley stuff..not what I wanna hear! lol As far as the "No cutting, no hassle, perfectly engineered stuff" you mentioned from Holley, well, of course, BRP makes the same claim..Looking at your post from 2008, thought I'd be safe with the BRP mounts and now, EITHER of those Holley pans..The 302-1, they say I shouldn't use, but you say works perfect,(in your first post from '08) and now the 302-2, which would give me even more clearance..Keep thinking of new questions to ask. Do any of you still have your A/C? I DO NOT want to use the coil relocation kit, as I want to use a cover on top of that butt ugly engine, and am wondering if that'll all fit together the way I envision it..Funny, the car's not here right now, so I can't even go out in the garage, pop the hood, and try n look around to see where I THINK stuff might end up!

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