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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 06:36 PM
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I've got a '68 ragtop with a transplanted LS1/T56 out of an '04 GTO. Went with the Texas Speed 228R and love the setup.

I have the Hawks Third Gen clutch master. Have about 500 miles on the swap and I notice some clutch fluid leaking out of the master. Hawks said to check the angle of the rod. They said it doesn't need to be "perfectly parallel" to the floor but he said it was possible the seal is being taxed if the angle is too steep.

Here's a pic of the leak:


Now the slope of the rod:


I could put the rod more parallel, but the driveability with the rod at that angle is terrible. The pedal is WAY too hard for enjoyable driving. Mines a cruiser and I'm not drag racing.

I noticed McLeod has a setup specifically for first gen F bodies. You'll notice it would allow me to mount the master at an angle so that the fulcrum of the clutch pedal would be up high, making pedal effort much easier.

Here's a pic of the McLeod unit:


Any feedback here? How have you guys dealt with this issue? Is my rod too steep at the angle in the second pic? I clearly have a leak that I need to address, but I want to enjoy driving my car and lopsided calf muscles ain't my thing! Thanks...

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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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I can't tell what angles you are at in your pics, but it looks like the shaft is crooked from the master cylinder in the first pic. The shaft must push into the master straight. You should be able to run yours exactly like the McLeod. I'm running a stock 2002 F-Body master cylinder exactly like that McLeod is. Doesn't yours install at an angle to the plate behind the brake master as in the pic?
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1964SS
I can't tell what angles you are at in your pics, but it looks like the shaft is crooked from the master cylinder in the first pic. The shaft must push into the master straight. You should be able to run yours exactly like the McLeod. I'm running a stock 2002 F-Body master cylinder exactly like that McLeod is. Doesn't yours install at an angle to the plate behind the brake master as in the pic?
Mine's not mounted at an angle. It's the GTO version. Hawk got back to me after I showed them the pics and said they would replace it NC. So apparently the angle of the rod should not have taxed the seal to cause the leak.

I am intrigued by the McLeod or factory F-body style that mounts it with the adapter plate at the downward angle so the rod connects up high on the pedal. I'll try the replacement Hawk master and see if it does the trick. If it doesn't I'll switch to your setup.

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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 06:42 PM
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Where can I get a pedal assembly from for my swap?
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Originally Posted by LS1 pwrd NOVA
Where can I get a pedal assembly from for my swap?
What is your swap?
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69 camaro, going 5.3 with an ls t56. I'm using the hooker swap kit also, holly pan.
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Originally Posted by LS1 pwrd NOVA
69 camaro, going 5.3 with an ls t56. I'm using the hooker swap kit also, holly pan.
I would use the 1969 pedal assembly and adapt it to work with a hydraulic clutch setup. You can buy the pedal assemblies all over the internet in reproduction form or browse the classic salvage yards if you want an OEM pedal assembly.

Here's a couple places selling reproduction assemblies.

http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/s...assembly-1969/

http://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-p...utch-1969.html
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